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12-31-2010, 11:20 AM | #101 |
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Wow. Those are... insane.
They look really awesome, coming from someone who has never even played the game. They'd integrate nicely into a PoC Cobra B.A.T. program. I might have to snag some of those, and hope the price comes up cheap! |
12-31-2010, 11:24 AM | #102 |
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I have been scouring for these, and have yet to see them hit my area.
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12-31-2010, 11:30 AM | #103 |
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Honestly only saw one on the pegs when searching through them. Possibly only one or two per case at best I'd say.
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12-31-2010, 11:37 AM | #104 |
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of course it is morally wrong. if we are going to discuss the morality of it, than the only moral answer to the question is "I don't know." if she chooses to give them to you at a lower price than they are after that, that is on her. but once you provide the price that isn't true so you can get it cheaper, and in this case the OP is a toy collector, knows the toy market and prices, and knew not only was it not the price but was a lower price, the morality of the lie is on him. there was no honest mistake about the answer that was given, it was done so for the sole purpose to deceive the store.
personally, I'm not terribly concerned with the morality of the lie itself. that's his own issue, and none of us are saints. what I've always been amazed by is how proud people are of their dishonesty that they seek applause for it. First I read this thread, thought AWESOME! Than my fellow tanker's b-slap it with the morality, and as usual, they are right. It's one thing to not say anything and let the clerk give it to you for the price she wants or thinks is right, I'm not going to argue that morality. It's another to lie about the price to get something for less, that is shoplifting, regardless of how we want to perceive it. And ultimately, it hurts us all. By posting this thread, there will be a guaranteed few who head out to try this same thing at their local store, and I don't doubt that many will succeed at doing the exact same thing. And here's the rub. Buying these at $1.99 is less than wholesale, as pointed out earlier, meaning the Target toy buyer now has a product line with negative margin, equating to virtual shrink / bad buy. It will prevent the senior buyer from allowing 'open to buy' dollars to go back into this line. If this becomes a widespread trend and target's POS systems can't get the price fixed, this line will have been a total disaster for Target, guaranteeing we won't be seeing any more Crysis figures, and possibly preventing another line from getting picked up. And let's just be honest here; these figures are part of the same 'class' of toys as GI Joe, which is what retail buyers group toys into. The lines are averaged out at a high-level when incorporating sale trends against sales plans. When a negative margin item (Crysis) is averaged into the class with items that may have just done ok or not great (POC / ROC), we have a serious problem when it comes to future orders. Prime example? Who doesn't have a few Night Ravens sitting in your clearance section at Target from ROC. Who couldn't find the Rhino clearanced out for under $10? Because they were such poor sellers, Target stopped carrying larger Joe vehicles, because there was a breakdown in sales at the larger level of Joe items in that class. This year we saw Bravo scale POC vehicles missing from Target's assortment for just this reason. So while it is cool you got an entire line of figures for $10, maybe it's not best to post this kind of stuff. It is shoplifting. It is cheating the system. It does damage the future of this type of product. It absolutely damages the boys line of 3 3/4 inch toys, GI Joe included. When we see a diminshed presence of figures on pegs, like we're seeing with POC, these are the threads we can attribute to the decline. It all adds up, and there is a tipping point.
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12-31-2010, 12:07 PM | #105 |
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DAMMIT MAN! Why did you have to go & mention B.A.T.s??? Now I have to pull out the yellow paint & buy a few of these things.
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12-31-2010, 02:43 PM | #106 |
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Eh, dunno, when I'm going to make moral arguments I generally shoot for greater wrongs than someone claiming a false price on an action figure, but I get your point.
And I agree with you about the strange desire people have to get lauded for this kind of deception. The OP clearly didn't get a "haul" or a "score" and shouldn't be congratulated for his actions. This was a case of someone tricking a clerk into giving something for a cheap price. If we're going to applaud that activity, why not also congratulate the toy aisle villain who swaps out a brand new figure with some crap and then returns it to the store? Isn't that the same kind of "score" or "haul"? Quote:
Yeah, not to toot my own horn for how valorous I am (toot-toot!) but at the register the lady asked me what price they were and I told her I had no idea. She gave them to me for $4.99 because she thought they "looked like they should priced that way."
Dunno -- I don't think it's morally wrong to claim a false price, but $1.99 doesn't seem fair to me. And hey, Fierce!
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12-31-2010, 02:50 PM | #107 |
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Eh, dunno, when I'm going to make moral arguments I generally shoot for greater wrongs than someone claiming a false price on an action figure, but I get your point.
And I agree with you about the strange desire people have to get lauded for this kind of deception. The OP clearly didn't get a "haul" or a "score" and shouldn't be congratulated for his actions. This was a case of someone tricking a clerk into giving something for a cheap price. If we're going to applaud that activity, why not also congratulate the toy aisle villain who swaps out a brand new figure with some crap and then returns it to the store? Isn't that the same kind of "score" or "haul"?
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12-31-2010, 02:58 PM | #108 |
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Actually i had no idea of the price and figured hey what the heck....if i can save a few bucks i am gonna save a few bucks. and as miuch as you self righteous people wanna say oh thats so horrible...im willing to bet if you didnt legitmately know a price and no did either...and there were other figures for a1.99 you woulda done the same. so get off the pedastal pal.
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12-31-2010, 03:02 PM | #109 |
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Maybe but i was simply sharing a haul...and wah-la the self righteous come out of the woodwork to condemn when they themseleves would probably have done the same thing and/or they are pissed they didn't think of it or get the figs for that price so to make themseleve feel better they go on a damning spree. all i gotta say is HA HA!!! (in best Nelson Voice)
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12-31-2010, 03:04 PM | #110 |
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word. they are cool figures. I wish I could find them, but they're not stocked at either of the area Targets.
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