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02-11-2021, 10:00 PM | #25241 |
A Cimmerian
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I think she will be back in a month or so. Disney will let it die down and then bring her back. Disney isn't the type of company to really give a crap unless it messes with their bottom line and then they pretend they do. If they see dollar signs they will bring her back.
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02-11-2021, 10:57 PM | #25242 |
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Someone mentioned an issue with High Republic earlier. I had asked what the issue was, though I think that was buried. Can anyone tell me what the issue is? I’ve enjoyed the first three books. |
02-11-2021, 10:58 PM | #25243 |
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Rude...and bullshit.
I can already see where you're coming from by the fact you're upset "Song of the South" isn't on Disney+ . I'll just add your name to the short list of people I avoid on the Tank. Do me a favor and don't reply to me in the future, and going forward I'll do the same. Thanks. "Song f the South" was both a glorification and misrepresentation of reconstruction era south. It was also the movie that saw the first black man receive an Oscar award of any type. There is virtue and value in learning from both good and bad actions in cinematic history. Trying to bury difficult subjects rather than reconciling them is the coward's way out. Quote:
No one was going after her for having different opinions. They were going after her for making really shitty comments/actions toward trans people and etc. It’s sad as I liked her a lot in The Mandalorian and Deadpool.
It’s more the issue of her and everyone who loosely throw around the old “this is nazi Germany!” comparison when someone doesn’t want to wear a mask or some other minor inconvenience that comes in the form of a request in the name of public safety. To throw around the idea that the genocide of millions of people is the same as having to wear a mask is insulting. Free speech is not in jeopardy here. She can and does say whatever she wants without the threat of going to prison. That doesn’t mean there isn’t consequences to ones actions. She, like many others have learned that you can and probably will get fired from your job as you become a very public liability if you make asinine and insulting statements. For those who feel that only people on the right are getting ‘cancelled’, there are plenty of people on the left who get ‘cancelled’ as well. Remember the lawyer who got fired for simply flipping off the presidential motorcade? Maybe just be a decent human and you won’t have to worry about getting fired? Carano didn't loosely make the comparison. It was specific in stating the Nazi's didn't have the man power to round up that many Jews, and it was only possible because the citizenry turned on one another. She then drew parallels to the current political climate. It may be a bit hyperbolic, but not inaccurate. We have congressmen looking to create black lists, PBS lawyers advocating re-education camps for the children of republicans, and recent poll showing 86% of Americans believe the greatest threat to their lives and liberty are their fellow citizens. It's not about being decent, just don't speak truthfully and you won’t have to worry about getting fired. Quote:
Disney burned the old expanded universe down because it was too complicated and inconvenient. High Republic is a new expanded universe, so my question is why invest in it, if it too can be burned down if/when it gets too complicated? The art I've seen thus far and the story synopsis have been uncompelling at best. Quote:
Disney can hire or fire who they want. But I think getting fired based on a fundamental misunderstanding of what a comment (of which she was not the originator) means sets a poor precedent, especially since it’sa standard that will not be upheld consistently. Some one saying that she feels bullied and the response being to say fuck you I hope you get fired isn’ta particularly mature or valid reaction, regardless of political inclinations. Frankly, it’s pretty childish.
But it’s literally never a good idea to invoke the Holocaust. Or slavery, for that matter. The second I disagree. Invoking the Holocaust and slavery should be handled carefully and sincerely. To declare those subjects sacred cows that can never be discussed will only lead to greater disaster and harm. I do think Nazi Germany and the Holocaust are a poor fit for our current situation. The Great Leap Forward or probably even better the Cultural Revolution are far better analogs. Unfortunately folks don't know history and I doubt that comparison would have had anywhere near that level of impact. |
02-11-2021, 11:27 PM | #25244 |
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I thought much the same of your post too. The misrepresentation is both rude and BS. An argument is pointless if it's dishonest.
"Song f the South" was both a glorification and misrepresentation of reconstruction era south. It was also the movie that saw the first black man receive an Oscar award of any type. There is virtue and value in learning from both good and bad actions in cinematic history. Trying to bury difficult subjects rather than reconciling them is the coward's way out. Except she didn't. She poked fun at butthurt activists whose sole goal in life is to be upset about something and make everyone conform to some new and ever changing standard. No trans person was hurt be beep/bop/boop. Carano didn't loosely make the comparison. It was specific in stating the Nazi's didn't have the man power to round up that many Jews, and it was only possible because the citizenry turned on one another. She then drew parallels to the current political climate. It may be a bit hyperbolic, but not inaccurate. We have congressmen looking to create black lists, PBS lawyers advocating re-education camps for the children of republicans, and recent poll showing 86% of Americans believe the greatest threat to their lives and liberty are their fellow citizens. It's not about being decent, just don't speak truthfully and you won’t have to worry about getting fired. Yes. Disney burned the old expanded universe down because it was too complicated and inconvenient. High Republic is a new expanded universe, so my question is why invest in it, if it too can be burned down if/when it gets too complicated? The art I've seen thus far and the story synopsis have been uncompelling at best. The first paragraph I completely agree. Well stated. The second I disagree. Invoking the Holocaust and slavery should be handled carefully and sincerely. To declare those subjects sacred cows that can never be discussed will only lead to greater disaster and harm. I do think Nazi Germany and the Holocaust are a poor fit for our current situation. The Great Leap Forward or probably even better the Cultural Revolution are far better analogs. Unfortunately folks don't know history and I doubt that comparison would have had anywhere near that level of impact.
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02-11-2021, 11:34 PM | #25245 |
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The difference (for now anyway) is that Gunn took full responsibility for his words from years ago, admitted they were ignorant and generally stupid, and expressed genuine remorse for having said them. Notice, he did not say, "I'm sorry you were offended" (which is not an apology).
Anyway, only time will tell. In the meantime - I'd sure like to see some updates on the Razor Crest. |
02-12-2021, 09:29 AM | #25246 |
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james gunn was apologetic and had remorse, she has showed none because she was given many opportunities to tone it down and she continued.
nevermind, i should read everything before i reply. this was said way better than me. Quote:
The difference (for now anyway) is that Gunn took full responsibility for his words from years ago, admitted they were ignorant and generally stupid, and expressed genuine remorse for having said them. Notice, he did not say, "I'm sorry you were offended" (which is not an apology).
Anyway, only time will tell. In the meantime - I'd sure like to see some updates on the Razor Crest. |
02-12-2021, 12:37 PM | #25247 |
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Nothing I wrote was a misrepresentation or dishonest. I can see you and I will find very little common ground, and I'm wasting my breath talking to you. At least when I see your posts in the future, I know exactly the kind of person I'm dealing with. Thanks.
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02-12-2021, 12:48 PM | #25248 |
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hey whats the latest on TVC?
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02-12-2021, 12:54 PM | #25249 |
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i have a feeling the fan first fridays blew the tvc load on the first go around like the mando mondays did. get ready for weeks of black series updates and cloisinne pins, coffee mugs and patches you dont want.
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02-12-2021, 01:08 PM | #25250 |
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Got my preorder in for that Mando Ahsoka, I can wait on maul
I suspect you are correct
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