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03-13-2020, 09:43 AM | #20451 |
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Well, as one of the people in the high risk of dying from COVID even though I am only in my early 40’s (thanks to an immuno issue), this is not blown out of proportion and is a serious concern. Am I so scared that I stopped leaving my house? No, but I’m not going to sit and pretend this is no big deal and will blow over.
A doc from the University of MN was on Joe Rogan (who I have never listened to before this interview) that is getting a lot of play. Listen to it if you get a chance. It’s not ‘snowflake liberal hysteria’, it’s real advice and input from a doctor who specializes in infectious diseases. Try to keep in mind, the young and normal looking person sitting next to you could be at risk of dying from this, it’s not just an ‘old persons problem’. And we watched that video yesterday at work. It was a very informative interview. |
03-13-2020, 10:22 AM | #20452 |
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I suppose its when I look at it relatively to other things. There have been several strains of flu that have been very lethal (seemingly moreso than covid, but it's still early) and I don't remember society being shut down because of it.
And I also question the wisdom of whether what is being done is really going to make a difference or just delay the eventuality of many people getting sick.
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03-13-2020, 10:41 AM | #20453 |
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I suppose its when I look at it relatively to other things. There have been several strains of flu that have been very lethal (seemingly moreso than covid, but it's still early) and I don't remember society being shut down because of it.
And I also question the wisdom of whether what is being done is really going to make a difference or just delay the eventuality of many people getting sick. Back in the 80s, 90s, and early 2000s, we didn't get scared until the bad weather came. But ever since after Hurricane Katrina everything changed. |
03-13-2020, 10:51 AM | #20454 |
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Well, as one of the people in the high risk of dying from COVID even though I am only in my early 40’s (thanks to an immuno issue), this is not blown out of proportion and is a serious concern. Am I so scared that I stopped leaving my house? No, but I’m not going to sit and pretend this is no big deal and will blow over.
A doc from the University of MN was on Joe Rogan (who I have never listened to before this interview) that is getting a lot of play. Listen to it if you get a chance. It’s not ‘snowflake liberal hysteria’, it’s real advice and input from a doctor who specializes in infectious diseases. Try to keep in mind, the young and normal looking person sitting next to you could be at risk of dying from this, it’s not just an ‘old persons problem’. https://ourworldindata.org/coronavirus Nightrattler, if you are in poor health, yes! YOU should take precautions. YOU should consider isolating yourself. YOU are in, let's suppose, roughly a 3%-6%-ish mortality risk bracket based on your age AND health factors. Look at these two graphs in concert: Most people, just based on age and not controlling for underlying health conditions, are in a 0.2%-0.4% mortality bracket. But remember two things: 1) these stats are based on Chinese mortality rates where they already have a far higher than normal death rate for pneumonia, which is ultimately what these people are dying from; and 2) those percentages (scary, yet still low) are only among confirmed cases, which we know are greatly lower than actual infection rates. These are not "percentage of total population" figures, they are "percentage of confirmed cases" figures. Even in fucking China, 81% of confirmed cases never had anything more than mild symptoms (never got shortness of breath at all and certainly never developed full-blown pneumonia). And Chinese folks smoke like chimneys at greater rates than people in the US which puts the Chinese at a disadvantage to begin with. Many people who catch this won't even feel as bad as a normal flu (some will experience infection and recovery entirely without symptoms). Lots of other people will experience a typical flu. Some few will develop pneumonia, but among those only a percentage will succumb to it and we already know which populations will be most sensitive to that so we can tailor a response to help them avoid infection. I'm not making light of that or saying nobody anywhere should look after themselves. But the response we're seeing from government agencies and from politicians is both irrational and wildly disproportionate. For most people, especially children and adults under 50, this will be a giant nothing. Shutting down schools state-wide, canceling events, closing off entire towns, etc. is pointless and overblown and it panicks large groups of stupid people. If YOU are at-risk, YOU take precautions. This virus will spread, regardless. It's highly contagious and people can transmit it before they even realize they have it. One sick asshat in New York returned from an Italian ski trip, was told to self-quarantine, and instead they went out and infected dozens of people around Manhattan before realizing they were in fact infected. You can't really stop this one from getting around. Scaring the shit out of healthy people and wrecking the economy will not prevent infection, it just leaves people poorer, unemployed (see: lay-offs already happening in the travel industry, and keep watching as other business sectors crumble and follow suit for no damn reason just because of this sky-is-falling bullshit), and stupidly panicked that they will die. Worst-case, if healthcare and rates of underlying conditions are as bad here as they are in China (and they're not), it's looking like >97% of people who even get sick enough to notice and get tested/confirmed will successfully recover. And the demographic for deaths among that 2.x% mortality rate skews HEAVILY toward the 80-and-up age bracket.
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03-13-2020, 10:57 AM | #20455 |
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Here's an example of over doing the precautions. I work for a large golf and tennis resort here in central Florida (the Accounting department in a separate small office, luckily for me). Anyway, we currently have a college golf tournament going on. We had one college, who had already traveled here, checked into the hotel, stayed the first night, got all signed in and ready to play at the proshop, and were on the first tee ready to tee off. The head of their golf team gets a call from the the Dean of the school "Stop what you're doing and DO NOT tee off. Pack up and head home immediately, all athletic event are currently suspended". So they immediately packed up and left.
Now, if you've already flown here, stayed the night, and are physically on the golf course, why not let the kids play. I mean, they're outdoors, not in a crowd, getting fresh air. I think it's decisions like these that are driving people nuts. I *do* think this is a serious virus and needs to be taken seriously, but a little common sense helps too.
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03-13-2020, 11:04 AM | #20456 |
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Here in Ohio, our dipshit governor announced that all schools will be closed for at least three weeks. This necessitates either costly daycare (generally done in large groups of similar-aged children...at which point one has to ask how this is any better than just sending them to school) or someone has to take 3 weeks off work to watch their kids at home.
Someone please explain how this is beneficial. So damn stupid.
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03-13-2020, 11:07 AM | #20457 |
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This mostly echoes Zap, but yeah, take it seriously, but don't stop the Earth from turning.
The social and financial ramifications are on pace to far outweigh the actual consequences of the illness, which quite frankly, can only be delayed. We're just at a point that society has come to of reacting for the sake of action, without ever asking if that action actually serves a purpose. It's the illusion of safety, not actual safety. Precaution definitely hits a point of diminishing returns. Matt's gold example illustrates that. If anything, the Dean should have told them to stay put for two weeks. If they had been exposed, why have them bring it back to the school (although I guess its likely the school was already closed, as well).
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03-13-2020, 11:09 AM | #20458 |
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Here in Ohio, our dipshit governor announced that all schools will be closed for at least three weeks. This necessitates either costly daycare (generally done in large groups of similar-aged children...at which point one has to ask how this is any better than just sending them to school) or someone has to take 3 weeks off work to watch their kids at home.
Someone please explain how this is beneficial. So damn stupid. That's just the schools saying, when you get sick, we want it to be your fault and not ours. It doesn't have a damn thing to do with safety.
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03-13-2020, 11:24 AM | #20459 |
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Hey Zap! I died too! The evil Cornovirus killeded me! If I wore a flimsy mask, I would’ve been saved!
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03-13-2020, 11:28 AM | #20460 |
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You also needed more toilet paper. Dumping stocks helps reduce risk of infection but the only way to survive once infected is to build yourself a mummy costume out of toilet paper while wearing at least three surgical masks. This is common knowledge.
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