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04-12-2009, 08:43 PM | #21 |
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Blue Ray players are backwards compatable with all standard dvd's.
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04-12-2009, 08:44 PM | #22 |
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Easy answer...GREED!! These companies werent making enough money so they come up with something new cause they know people will rush out for any new tech like vultures to a carcass without thinking. Instead of if it aint broke dont fix it its if we arent selling a bunch each year take what people have and make it obsolete and make em buy something new. I am about to just drop it all in general as i am sick of having to waste money needlessly on new products just to watch some of my fave movies or play some of my fave video games. Its getting outta hand.
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04-12-2009, 11:32 PM | #23 |
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Blu-Ray will end up being the format sooner or later but it isn't going to really take hold unless they decide to dramatically drop the price of both the player and disc.
As of now the player alone is what...$250+? VERY few people are buying into that concept...and for good reason, why? Don't give me the picture quality story...not enough people notice/care about it enough to make the switch. I don't know ONE person that actually has a Blu-Ray player besides the PS3. The discs cost what...$20-$35 on average? Bah....I will give *some* credit tho...and just a little, since they were forced to drop due to poor sales... I remember when, and not to long ago you couldn't find a disc for less then $30 and topped out at around $40-$45..so they have come down a bit, but again...not enough for *most* people to care or make the switch. When the prices on both the player and discs begin to drop, which WILL happen people will start to make the transition...but as of now no one cares...especially with the economy the way it is. List of priorities....#1-1,000 #1,000.............Gotta get that Blu-Ray Player!! Last edited by Sysiss; 04-12-2009 at 11:34 PM.. |
04-12-2009, 11:35 PM | #24 |
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Meh, like it or not but Blu Ray is the new laser disk. Despite what some may want to believe, it will never replace the standard DVD. Particularly in this new era of thrifty consumer spending in the US. Folks who invested in Laserdisk once sang the doom and gloom tales about it replacing VHS. They were wrong. My guess is that Toshiba is already working on it's next media format and that is most certainly the format that will replace DVD. To do so though, the format will have to offer something more than just an improved picture quality that most Americans would never even notice because they do not have TVs that are 42" or bigger. One of the big selling points for folks DVD was that it could free up all that space being used by VHS tapes. It was also much easier to use with no need to wait on the rewind. The next format has to offer something more than just an improvement in picture quality if it wants to be universally accepted as the new media format, which is really all Blu Ray has to offer.
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04-12-2009, 11:50 PM | #25 |
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A few reasons why Blu-ray is NOT Laserdisk, Mark II.
First of all, I was (still AM damnit) a huge HD-DVD supporter, and was really sad when Blu-ray "won". Sony backed blu-ray, they are FOR region encoding and a bunch of other crap, HD-DVD was initially superior in video and audio quality AND it was cheaper to manufacture, leading to cheaper prices. Sony won, oh well, I can move on. But it's not another Laserdisk, first of all, the disks are not record sized, they are NORMAL sized, which makes portability a heck of a lot easier. They are backwards compatible, all Blu-ray players are ALSO DVD players (and damn fine ones usually). They upconvert SD-DVD to 'near' HD quality (not really, but thats the box blurb). So when people go to buy a new DVD player, there is a chance they will get a Blu-ray player just to be 'future proof'. The high prices of current players is hurting this strategy, but prices will always come down. But its going to be a slow slide away from DVD, its a much easier transition for Joe 6-pack to make, disks look the same, same type of player, people will be eased into it whether they like it or not. Quality. You can tell the difference, anyone who says they can't is obviously not hooking something up correctly, or has a crappy ass television. Even on my PC I have some DVD-quality video vs 720p video and its night and day. Everyone here is on a computer (or phone I guess), so DVD = 720x480 pixels. HD is 1280x720 and/or 1920x1080 pixels. That is a HELL of a lot of pixels, try turning your monitor back to 800x600 compared to what it is now, it makes a difference. Cost.. you can find almost any Blu-ray movie for $15-$25 if you look around, Amazon ALWAYS has B2G1 sales, or better. MSRP is usually still $29-$39 but they are found way cheaper if you take the time to look. Lastly, there is massive studio support for Blu-ray now. It cost them a pretty penny to make the manufacturing switch-over for Blu-ray, and they are not going to let that money go to waste. The only real threat to Blu-ray comes from, strangely enough, a HD-DVD backer.. Microsoft. They are 'leading' the charge with downloadable HD content on the Xbox360 and PC, and if you have a quick enough internet connection, downloading Blu-ray quality video is going to be the wave of the future. If this can catch on, and its starting to, people will not be paying $30 per blu-ray movie. Yeah, I love HD, even if it's filling Sony's coffers. I'm a HD whore.
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04-13-2009, 12:00 AM | #26 |
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Really? I laughed when HD died because Sony spent all that money to put it's rival out of business even though neither format had a chance in Hell of replacing standard DVD. Agree or disagree but most of us are too cheap to spend $25 more for a movie just to have a slight improvement in picture quality. So Ha! Ha! to Sony for tossing all that money down the drain. I am sticking with DVD and am happy about it. P.S. I HATE SONY!
the success of blu ray is hardly determined, so it is hardly a waste of money for Sony. what has your dislike for the Sony clouded more, your ability to see reason or hdtv? |
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04-13-2009, 12:03 AM | #27 |
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Blue Ray is outstanding in every way.
50gb discs vs. 8.5gb discs. 1080P res is out of this world. The timetable is the problem. If Blue Ray was released in January of this year, It would be a totally diffrent story. As far as streaming HD, It would take a 100mbs internet connection for that. We are up to 30mbs with Verizon Fios in the states.
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04-13-2009, 12:07 AM | #28 |
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The only real threat to Blu-ray comes from, strangely enough, a HD-DVD backer.. Microsoft. They are 'leading' the charge with downloadable HD content on the Xbox360 and PC, and if you have a quick enough internet connection, downloading Blu-ray quality video is going to be the wave of the future. If this can catch on, and its starting to, people will not be paying $30 per blu-ray movie.
Yeah, I love HD, even if it's filling Sony's coffers. I'm a HD whore. the only problem is that it requires a large up front cost -- that hard drive. now, a blu ray or dvd player is the same up front cost, but to the general consumer a player is a tangible, functioning product while a hard drive is just storage and doesn't generate the same feelings. |
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04-13-2009, 12:07 AM | #29 |
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Especially when with an Upconvert DVD Player you can't tell the difference.
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04-13-2009, 12:09 AM | #30 |
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