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11-09-2021, 10:50 PM | #91 |
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These are not Modern Era figures. These are new sculpt figures which many people feel were the worst figure sculpts made by Hasbro. Yes, the Modern Era 25th 4" figures had wonky proportions, but then came along the POC/30th/Ren/Ret/50th figures. Most of these figures have the best proportions in a 4" scale. Too bad the molds for these figures have been destroyed.
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11-09-2021, 10:53 PM | #92 |
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11-10-2021, 12:44 AM | #93 |
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Oh, see, I'd wager it's more nostalgia than we realize/understand/or maybe will admit to. There's no getting around the fact the vintage o-ring figures look, well, vintage. I'm pretty sure if the o-ring Joe figures had never been and were introduced today, most adult collectors would definitely label them "old fashioned," and probably "cartoony," cheap and underarticulated too, which is what a lot of adult collectors have said about toys like the Spin Master DC, MIB, Bandai Thundercats and others of their ilk. We'll never know for certain, of course, but I suspect nostalgia plays a huge part in us liking the aesthetics of the original figures too.
I feel that o-ring figures hit a good balance of articulation and solidity, where they function really well as playable toys. I understand the appeal of ME figures with more articulation and more realistic detail, but to me they function better for people that like to pose and admire their figures. As far as aesthetics go, I don't believe the attraction to o-rings is purely nostalgia due to them being old... I has more detailed action figures as a kid, the Rambo Force of Freedom figures for example, and as cool as they were, I still gravitated towards Joes with their shouldered and elbow rivets, and more simplistic faces, because I just generally liked the look of them better and enjoyed playing with them more. There is something to be said for figures that are not overly detailed, because it leaves a certain amount of space for imagination to happen, and maintains its "toyetic" quality... and on a similar note, I think Classified figures are amazing, they are like pieces of art, and I bought a few, but I don't find myself drawn to play with them, I just want to pose them and admire them for their detail and dynamic pose-ability... they almost look to real, like they're going to come to life, which is cool, but has a bit less of that "toyetic" quality. This is just my long winded way of say, yes I don't deny nostalgia plays a big part in my attraction to o-rings, but it's not just that, and my attraction to it is also based on playability, and it's aesthetic as a toy. |
11-10-2021, 12:49 AM | #94 |
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11-10-2021, 09:33 AM | #95 |
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I've never denied that nostalgia plays a big part, and I believe it does, however, my point is it's more than that, and there are elements inherent in o-ring figures that make them good toys to play with that transcend their nostalgic appeal. I loved vintage motu when I was a kid too, but I don't feel like they've held up nearly as well, because they lack a lot of the articulation that o-rings do, so I do acknowledge when toys get dated... That's also why I like MOTU Origins so much, because of the added articulation.
I feel that o-ring figures hit a good balance of articulation and solidity, where they function really well as playable toys. I understand the appeal of ME figures with more articulation and more realistic detail, but to me they function better for people that like to pose and admire their figures. As far as aesthetics go, I don't believe the attraction to o-rings is purely nostalgia due to them being old... I has more detailed action figures as a kid, the Rambo Force of Freedom figures for example, and as cool as they were, I still gravitated towards Joes with their shouldered and elbow rivets, and more simplistic faces, because I just generally liked the look of them better and enjoyed playing with them more. There is something to be said for figures that are not overly detailed, because it leaves a certain amount of space for imagination to happen, and maintains its "toyetic" quality... and on a similar note, I think Classified figures are amazing, they are like pieces of art, and I bought a few, but I don't find myself drawn to play with them, I just want to pose them and admire them for their detail and dynamic pose-ability... they almost look to real, like they're going to come to life, which is cool, but has a bit less of that "toyetic" quality. This is just my long winded way of say, yes I don't deny nostalgia plays a big part in my attraction to o-rings, but it's not just that, and my attraction to it is also based on playability, and it's aesthetic as a toy.
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11-10-2021, 02:53 PM | #96 |
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I've never denied that nostalgia plays a big part, and I believe it does, however, my point is it's more than that, and there are elements inherent in o-ring figures that make them good toys to play with that transcend their nostalgic appeal. I loved vintage motu when I was a kid too, but I don't feel like they've held up nearly as well, because they lack a lot of the articulation that o-rings do, so I do acknowledge when toys get dated... That's also why I like MOTU Origins so much, because of the added articulation.
I feel that o-ring figures hit a good balance of articulation and solidity, where they function really well as playable toys. I understand the appeal of ME figures with more articulation and more realistic detail, but to me they function better for people that like to pose and admire their figures. As far as aesthetics go, I don't believe the attraction to o-rings is purely nostalgia due to them being old... I has more detailed action figures as a kid, the Rambo Force of Freedom figures for example, and as cool as they were, I still gravitated towards Joes with their shouldered and elbow rivets, and more simplistic faces, because I just generally liked the look of them better and enjoyed playing with them more. There is something to be said for figures that are not overly detailed, because it leaves a certain amount of space for imagination to happen, and maintains its "toyetic" quality... and on a similar note, I think Classified figures are amazing, they are like pieces of art, and I bought a few, but I don't find myself drawn to play with them, I just want to pose them and admire them for their detail and dynamic pose-ability... they almost look to real, like they're going to come to life, which is cool, but has a bit less of that "toyetic" quality. This is just my long winded way of say, yes I don't deny nostalgia plays a big part in my attraction to o-rings, but it's not just that, and my attraction to it is also based on playability, and it's aesthetic as a toy. Last edited by SnowCat; 11-10-2021 at 02:57 PM.. |
11-10-2021, 03:26 PM | #97 |
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This already existed for Joes. It was called the GI Joe Club Figure Subscription Service. It ran from 2013 to 2019. It gave us 104 (116 if you include the Final 12 figures) figures and they were Modern Era 4" figures. Most of them had POC quality builds. Given that Hasbro let the POC tooling be destroyed, and the inferior (marginal for Stalker/Grunt) sculpts on the Retro figures made in Vietnam, I just don't see Hasbro doing an FSS type model for 4" figures. I can see them doing it for Classified and possibly these new o-ring figures so obscure characters can be made though.
Now that the world of online retail begins to (hopefully) settle back down post-pandemic, and Hasbro has an established vehicle for direct-to-consumer sales in Pulse, I wonder if they'll give the DTC model another shot at some point.
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11-10-2021, 06:33 PM | #98 |
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DTC really came out at a different time and might have even been slightly ahead of it's time - sure there was e-commerce but it's not like it is today 15 years later. On top of that the DTC offerings were mostly the new sculpt figures which did not have the same amount of enthusiasm or support among collectors at that time.
This time around I would think a Hasbro online marketplace or even partnering with Amazon for online distribution seems more viable than it would have back then. I am interested to see how the O-ring figures are made available - if only through Hasbro or also Brick & Mortar. |
11-10-2021, 06:53 PM | #99 |
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This is why I like o-ring figures to. Im to afraid to play with my vintage ones that I had because of how old they and they dont make them anymore. but once these new ones are released I will play with them and let my daughter enjoy them to. I plan on buying 2 of each. one to open and play with and 1 to keep carded. this is the #1 reason I want o-ring figures. I have star wars vintage collection figures but the joints are to stiff to play with so its not the same as GIJOE
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11-10-2021, 06:59 PM | #100 |
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Exactly. You can lose all the gear to an O-ring figure and it's still a great toy. Lose all the gear to an ME figure and most of them look weird. And while it's true that nostalgia can affect perception of O-ring figures, it could also be said that how you view ME can be affected by amount of money invested, how much you're into customizing or even just liking shiny new things.
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