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02-08-2023, 03:53 PM | #2601 |
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In the case of G.I. Joe, nearly everyone who loves the franchise has some admiration for the heroism and bravery and loyalty, but they have different feelings on unrealistic elements like magic or super-skilled ninjas.
But the Snake Eyes movie alienated everybody by attacking that foundation of heroism and bravery and loyalty by making Snake-Eyes a liar and a backstabber. It literally ripped out the heart of the whole franchise. When something like that happens, like happened in the cartoon on occasion, it should be a big deal, not whatever it was in that movie. Snake-Eyes had the core elements, but also had a story nobody really cared about - a talking, good looking Snake-Eyes who is also a total asshole to boot. RoC and Retaliation at least did Snake-Eyes fairly right in that he was a silent, deadly operative. IMHO the Snake-Eyes movie Snakes himself should have been a bit player and it be about Storm Shadow and his being framed by Cobra Commander through Zartan. Zero need for all the other crap. Like, really, why the hell is Akiko even a thing when you have Jinx? You want extra crap added? CC's backstory of WHY he's framing Zartan suffices. But again, we look at crap like the idiot in charge afraid Cobra Commander looks like a KKK member. No, shit, Sherlock - he's a backwoods nutjob angry at the U.S. Government and the world. If you're afraid of the character then why are you even making a movie about THE face of the franchise villain? |
02-08-2023, 03:57 PM | #2602 |
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The G.I. Joe and the Star Wars movie comparison is a good one.
The debate about whether Rouge One is a good movie or not misses the point, which is that Star Wars has two kinds of fans. Some of them want Star Wars to be tough and gritty and have realistic combat and such. These people loved Empire Strikes Back. And some people want Star Wars to be fun and exciting and have hollywood endings. These people love Return of the Jedi. The truth is Star Wars has always managed to be a good balance of both, and so it draws both audiences, but one group or the other can be alienated by any given movie. In the case of G.I. Joe, nearly everyone who loves the franchise has some admiration for the heroism and bravery and loyalty, but they have different feelings on unrealistic elements like magic or super-skilled ninjas. But the Snake Eyes movie alienated everybody by attacking that foundation of heroism and bravery and loyalty by making Snake-Eyes a liar and a backstabber. It literally ripped out the heart of the whole franchise. When something like that happens, like happened in the cartoon on occasion, it should be a big deal, not whatever it was in that movie. They could have easily left his ethnicity intact and just updated the war from ?nam to quatar or irn or something along those line but because of the growing oh ?no white savior? sentiment that permeates every facet of entertainment (so white guys cant be trained in ninjitsu now? That a racist sentiment) we were given a hackneyed, politically correct shit show that not only fucked up one gi joes most loved characters origins it made him into a complete douchebag.
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02-08-2023, 04:07 PM | #2603 |
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I can’t get over the Rogue One love. What about that film is so fascinating or engaging? Also, better than Star Wars? Sorry fellas, but how can you possibly rank Rogue One over the original film? BTW, Vader was so much more badass when he came in after the cannon fodder. He wouldn’t have wasted one wheezy breath dispatching a bunch of lowly rebel troops; that’s what the Stormtroopers are for. For a movie that was meant to be about some heroic rebels, it’s really telling that the exciting hero moment is given to your big bad at the end.
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02-08-2023, 04:10 PM | #2604 |
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The biggest problem with the garbage origin movie is (i think thats how it happened in the comics but its been a minute since i read them so forgive any inaccuracies due to retcons etc) snakes transition from a caucasian war hero who's brotherly friendship with tommy arashikage led tom to taking an injured se to recuperate and then train in ninjitsu to an asian guy who was a spoiled, lying, backstabbing brat.
They could have easily left his ethnicity intact and just updated the war from ?nam to quatar or irn or something along those line but because of the growing oh ?no white savior? sentiment that permeates every facet of entertainment (so white guys cant be trained in ninjitsu now? That a racist sentiment) we were given a hackneyed, politically correct shit show that not only fucked up one gi joes most loved characters origins it made him into a complete douchebag. I suppose he wants to see himself more in the character these days? Personally, I always wished Snake-Eyes was just a totally shadowed face when shown outside the full suit. What is his ethnicity? His race? Hell, his gender perhaps? Don't know and it doesn't matter because the character is just Snake-Eyes. as a kid I always noticed everyone gravitated towards him in play, and I feel it was because he could be anyone and you could project yourself onto him. |
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I can?t get over the Rogue One love. What about that film is so fascinating or engaging? Also, better than Star Wars? Sorry fellas, but how can you possibly rank Rogue One over the original film? BTW, Vader was so much more badass when he came in after the cannon fodder. He wouldn?t have wasted one wheezy breath dispatching a bunch of lowly rebel troops; that?s what the Stormtroopers are for. For a movie that was meant to be about some heroic rebels, it?s really telling that the exciting hero moment is given to your big bad at the end.
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02-08-2023, 05:27 PM | #2610 |
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I like the new Marvel Vader comic, but it gets old pretty quick: he meets someone and kills them on the last page, and walks away. You can only have so much of Vader walking around killing people.
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