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08-07-2012, 10:40 AM | #31 |
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"Accellorator suits...clearly the idea was to make an attempt to appeal to the Sigma 6 faction of the Joe line...guys...did anyone mention (good or bad) Sigma 6 failed"
Actually they were in there because Sommers had an unsold/unfiled script called "Accelerator", about a cop or something that wore a suit similar to the Joe version. |
08-07-2012, 12:40 PM | #32 |
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Actually, if you bothered to read past the first page of that article you linked in the other thread you would come to realize that A Tale of Two Cities was the inspiration for the events that took place, but the movie itself was in fact NOT "all about that." At least not in the context that you want to think it means.
In Nolan's own words He only used A Tale of Two Cities as inspiration for something that Bane could do to throw Gotham into chaos. The movie itself wasn't about that. It was just one element of the story about Batman and Gotham. That TDKR was inspired by a Tale of Two Cities and about class warfare, a city bursting at the seems ready to explode into revolution, isn't something I made up. It's what Nolan was actually going for but failed to deliver. He should have showed the city tearing itself apart and Batman helpless to do anything about it all because of Bane's actions, but instead chose to make a bomb waiting to explode the driving force for Batman needing to escape. Pathetic IMO. Had Sommers directed the movie it would have been much better. RoC was much better. At least in that movie you knew Joe had to stop those missiles, which is what they did. I mean, the resolution that the movie was built to wasn't left open at movie's end which makes for a much more enjoyable and rewarding movie going experience IMO. |
08-07-2012, 12:53 PM | #33 |
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Lol, are you trying to flame me sharky? Of course I read the whole article, but thanks for posting it here in this thread so that everyone can see it.
That TDKR was inspired by a Tale of Two Cities and about class warfare, a city bursting at the seems ready to explode into revolution, isn't something I made up. It's what Nolan was actually going for but failed to deliver. He should have showed the city tearing itself apart and Batman helpless to do anything about it all because of Bane's actions, but instead chose to make a bomb waiting to explode the driving force for Batman needing to escape. Pathetic IMO. Had Sommers directed the movie it would have been much better. RoC was much better. At least in that movie you knew Joe had to stop those missiles, which is what they did. I mean, the resolution that the movie was built to wasn't left open at movie's end which makes for a much more enjoyable and rewarding movie going experience IMO. |
08-07-2012, 05:22 PM | #34 |
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You can choose to ignore the rest of his comments on what the movie was actually about all you want. It won't make them go away. You just don't want to hear it because it doesn't support your contention. You can choose to be ignorant of the facts about the movie, but don't bash it just because you had a hard time with it. It's OK if you prefer movies written primarily for the lowest common denominator. You don't have to bring other movies down just because they're not your cup of tea. I could really beat the dead horse with regard to why ROC was so bad, but I won't stoop to your level.
TDKR, not so much. The movie sucked, and I'm just pointing out why. I was actually in the process of discussing why it sucked with someone who agrees with me when you interjected yourself to attack me. That's not very cool bro. Why can't we all be friends and just disagree about TDKR? I mean c'mon sharky. I already gave you the TDKR thread for you and everyone else to talk about how much you like it, why do you have to come into this thread just to attack me? Isn't that harassment? Nolan set out to make a movie inspired by a Tale of Two Cities. A story about a city about to explode into class warfare and the villian who exploited it. Those are his words and you saved me the trouble of posting them (thanks btw). He gave us a movie about a bomb and the guy who tricked everyone into thinking he sacrificed himself trying to stop it. Clearly Nolan failed to deliver what he set out to deliver. Not only that, but he left the mechanism that caused the city to be a powderkeg in place at movies end. Oh, but Batman saved everyone from the bomb and got the girl! Yeah, great movie! Not IMO. I mean, I'm glad you liked it, but if you're just going to come in here and insult me, I mean flame me so that I'll somehow enter into a fight with you, well that's just not going to happen. It would have been wicked cool if at the end of TDKR, Duke and Rip stormed the city in their Accelorator suits and saved the day. Yeah, that would have been awesome. I would have woken up for that. Then, before they left, the Joe team could have rebuilt the city and repealed the Dent act, you know, instead of just running away with the girl that double crossed them earlier in the movie. Last edited by Raw Dog; 08-07-2012 at 05:25 PM.. |
08-07-2012, 05:45 PM | #35 |
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08-07-2012, 08:16 PM | #36 |
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08-07-2012, 10:12 PM | #37 |
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Lol, no need to get so insulting bro. Why are you getting so mad at me? I thought RoC was a great movie, especially the Accelorator suit scene. It was awesome.
TDKR, not so much. The movie sucked, and I'm just pointing out why. I was actually in the process of discussing why it sucked with someone who agrees with me when you interjected yourself to attack me. That's not very cool bro. Why can't we all be friends and just disagree about TDKR? I mean c'mon sharky. I already gave you the TDKR thread for you and everyone else to talk about how much you like it, why do you have to come into this thread just to attack me? Isn't that harassment? Nolan set out to make a movie inspired by a Tale of Two Cities. A story about a city about to explode into class warfare and the villian who exploited it. Those are his words and you saved me the trouble of posting them (thanks btw). He gave us a movie about a bomb and the guy who tricked everyone into thinking he sacrificed himself trying to stop it. Clearly Nolan failed to deliver what he set out to deliver. Not only that, but he left the mechanism that caused the city to be a powderkeg in place at movies end. Oh, but Batman saved everyone from the bomb and got the girl! Yeah, great movie! Not IMO. I mean, I'm glad you liked it, but if you're just going to come in here and insult me, I mean flame me so that I'll somehow enter into a fight with you, well that's just not going to happen. It would have been wicked cool if at the end of TDKR, Duke and Rip stormed the city in their Accelorator suits and saved the day. Yeah, that would have been awesome. I would have woken up for that. Then, before they left, the Joe team could have rebuilt the city and repealed the Dent act, you know, instead of just running away with the girl that double crossed them earlier in the movie. Even the OP points out that you were bringing up stuff not relevant to the thread. OK, he mad a mistake and misquoted you, but what he meant was clear. Did you take a hint and stop there? Of course not. You kept on and kept on. I'm just pointing out your flawed interpretation of what Nolan was trying to do. You just keep ignoring his own words because it counters what you keep claiming. That is, the claim that TDKR is supposed to be a movie of A Tale of Two Cities with Batman thrown in. And, it is clear from Nolan himself that is not the case at all. He just used it as inspiration for the kinds of things that would throw Gotham into chaos, "a backdrop to the story" and addressing those specifics "isn't what we're doing here." Besides once the bomb was taken care of it was just academic that the military would roll in and take back control of the city. But, I guess Nolan has to spell all that out to people because they couldn't just figure out that's what was going to happen anyway. No, we had to go through the boring exercise of seeing the actual military go in, and see them physically take control of the city. Then we needed to go through long drawn out scenes of them rounding up the bad guys, etc, etc. When all that was really needed to wrap things up was what he ended up showing on the screen as that's what was actually important to show. With regard to ROC, I don't even have to do any of the work when all one needs to do is look up the million threads that point out what was wrong with ROC. |
08-08-2012, 08:04 AM | #38 |
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Gimmie a break sharky. This place is supposed to be fun. It isn't supposed to be aggravating. There's no real reason for us to be angry or arguing.
I posted what I thought and others took TDKR interjection into the conversation and ran with it. You were the one that came into the thread and just attacked me. Why? If you can't handle someone pointing out what they thought was wrong with the movie you liked with out getting so riled up that you have to go and attack them then maybe it's time to get up and walk away from the computer? TDKR would have been better without the bomb. If Bruce had to watch Gotham tear itself apart from his prison because of the lawlessness Bane caused in Gotham, not only would Nolan have succeeded in doing what he had set out to do, but the movie would have been better for it. If Gotham spinning out of control into the abyss as a result of Bane's actions caused Gordon and Batman to see that their lie about Dent was a mistake that Bane exploited the whole movie would have been more meaningful. If Batman returning to restore order ended up being enough to inspire the good people of Gotham to join up and help him restore order then Nolan would have given us a trilogy that delivered what it promised. We didn't get that though. We got hurry up and stop the bomb. Oh, and why didn't the prisoners in Bane's prison just form a human pyramid to escape? As far as your refusal to talk about RoC is concerned, maybe you should stay on topic? I enjoyed RoC. I couldn't really find anything wrong with it. It was awesome. I own a copy of it, have seen it several times, and often put it on when I'm flipping and I catch it on TV. |
08-08-2012, 09:32 AM | #39 |
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Gimmie a break sharky. This place is supposed to be fun. It isn't supposed to be aggravating. There's no real reason for us to be angry or arguing.
I posted what I thought and others took TDKR interjection into the conversation and ran with it. You were the one that came into the thread and just attacked me. Why? If you can't handle someone pointing out what they thought was wrong with the movie you liked with out getting so riled up that you have to go and attack them then maybe it's time to get up and walk away from the computer? TDKR would have been better without the bomb. If Bruce had to watch Gotham tear itself apart from his prison because of the lawlessness Bane caused in Gotham, not only would Nolan have succeeded in doing what he had set out to do, but the movie would have been better for it. If Gotham spinning out of control into the abyss as a result of Bane's actions caused Gordon and Batman to see that their lie about Dent was a mistake that Bane exploited the whole movie would have been more meaningful. If Batman returning to restore order ended up being enough to inspire the good people of Gotham to join up and help him restore order then Nolan would have given us a trilogy that delivered what it promised. We didn't get that though. We got hurry up and stop the bomb. Oh, and why didn't the prisoners in Bane's prison just form a human pyramid to escape? As far as your refusal to talk about RoC is concerned, maybe you should stay on topic? I enjoyed RoC. I couldn't really find anything wrong with it. It was awesome. I own a copy of it, have seen it several times, and often put it on when I'm flipping and I catch it on TV. The pit was way to deep for any human pyramid to even make any kind of sense. Keep your day job because you stink at writing stories. BTW, rotten tomatoes rates TDKR at 92% of the audience that liked it compared to the 62% for ROC. Critics rating for TDKR is 87% compared to 32% for ROC. Let me be clear, I'm not even saying that TDKR was the greatest movie or that it was flawless. There are problems with it just like there are problems with a lot of movies. You can pick apart plots to just about anything and second guess everything. All I'm saying is that it's not nearly as bad as some would make it out to be. Last edited by sharky; 08-08-2012 at 10:20 AM.. |
08-08-2012, 10:35 AM | #40 |
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I just enjoy going to the movies. I don't go in expecting much with any movie I have seen. I do have to say I really enjoyed TDKR, I thought Nolan's trilogy was the BEST for the Bat Man franchise. Bane was done PERFECTLY IMO, he was always a gangster with evil intentions. NOT some beefed up muscle head idiot that peeps portray him to be. As far as ROC is concerned I liked it and still watch it from time to time. Yes there are flaws but think past them and ROC was actually a good movie. I'm really looking forward to Retaliation next year as well, I don't really enjoy 3D movies so I will skip that version but from what I've seen I think it will be good. At least CC looks like he should, and for the cast I think they fit their characters well. So that's just what I wanted to say, To each his own....
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