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01-23-2010, 06:43 PM | #11 |
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Actually, no, don't scan the pic.
These types of books are done by collectors for collectors and take great amounts of time and money to produce with very little return other than the satisfaction of creating it. Scanning and reproducing it in whole or part only hurts the authors and creators and hurts the chances that we get more items like this in the future. I am sure someone with the guide can give a full description of the art in question.
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01-23-2010, 06:43 PM | #12 |
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now is when i need to have those books
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01-23-2010, 06:46 PM | #13 |
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Actually, no, don't scan the pic.
These types of books are done by collectors for collectors and take great amounts of time and money to produce with very little return other than the satisfaction of creating it. Scanning and reproducing it in whole or part only hurts the authors and creators and hurts the chances that we get more items like this in the future. I am sure someone with the guide can give a full description of the art in question.
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01-23-2010, 06:55 PM | #14 |
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He's got a mohawk, and he's obviously native-looking. This.
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01-23-2010, 07:44 PM | #15 |
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I checked the artist's (Dave Dorman) website Dave Dorman- Star Wars art, fantasy art, comic book art, and much more and its not on there, but I've basically heard the same as Roshan about it being an unproduced Native American Joe.
I think Mark Bellomo's "The Ultimate Guide to G.I. Joe 2nd Edition" is a must have for any Joe enthusiast. If you're a member of some GI Joe forum like HissTank and have spent $25 on Joes in the last year and you don't own this book, you are doing a disservice to your own collecting/Joe interest hobby. Even if you're not into necessarily collecting Joes produced from '82 to '94, the tidbits of information it gives on various characters/figs and vehicles is great. I know I initially drug my feet, but it was great when I finally picked this bad boy up. From Larry Hama comments, his original intended code names for some, extended and unpublished file card notes, some historical context behind file card stuff, to notes from some of Hasbro's former product designers like Ron Rudat, as well as little stories behind the making of certain figs or who/what inspired them. Some random examples (maybe not the bast ones) are: one of the Ice Vipers prototype names was Werewolves, Road Pig's fictional birthplace of Goblu, MI is actually an allusion to diehard Michigan Wolverine fans that chant "Go Blue!", The Iron Grenadiers could have been called: The Nameless Legion, Stainless Steel Brigade, or The Hard Corps. In '83 after the introduction of swivel arm grip, Hasbro slightly redesigned the original '82 Joes' belt buckles to look like the Hasbro symbol. In Larry Hama's mind, the Baroness has no accent. She is actually an American student that got mixed up with radicals while studing abroad and gave herself the name "Anastasia DeCobray." Stalker, according to Hama is, "...based on a real person, about whom I will say no more..." With the addition of a great backstory, Snake Eyes became the most popular Joe character ever, but originally the bland all black, no paint apps fig was cost saving measure. Great stuff! I could go on and on... |
01-23-2010, 08:01 PM | #16 |
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I checked the artist's (Dave Dorman) website Dave Dorman- Star Wars art, fantasy art, comic book art, and much more and its not on there, but I've basically heard the same as Roshan about it being an unproduced Native American Joe.
I think Mark Bellomo's "The Ultimate Guide to G.I. Joe 2nd Edition" is a must have for any Joe enthusiast. If you're a member of some GI Joe forum like HissTank and have spent $25 on Joes in the last year and you don't own this book, you are doing a disservice to your own collecting/Joe interest hobby. Even if you're not into necessarily collecting Joes produced from '82 to '94, the tidbits of information it gives on various characters/figs and vehicles is great. I know I initially drug my feet, but it was great when I finally picked this bad boy up. From Larry Hama comments, his original intended code names for some, extended and unpublished file card notes, some historical context behind file card stuff, to notes from some of Hasbro's former product designers like Ron Rudat, as well as little stories behind the making of certain figs or who/what inspired them. Some random examples (maybe not the bast ones) are: one of the Ice Vipers prototype names was Werewolves, Road Pig's fictional birthplace of Goblu, MI is actually an allusion to diehard Michigan Wolverine fans that chant "Go Blue!", The Iron Grenadiers could have been called: The Nameless Legion, Stainless Steel Brigade, or The Hard Corps. In '83 after the introduction of swivel arm grip, Hasbro slightly redesigned the original '82 Joes' belt buckles to look like the Hasbro symbol. In Larry Hama's mind, the Baroness has no accent. She is actually an American student that got mixed up with radicals while studing abroad and gave herself the name "Anastasia DeCobray." Stalker, according to Hama is, "...based on a real person, about whom I will say no more..." With the addition of a great backstory, Snake Eyes became the most popular Joe character ever, but originally the bland all black, no paint apps fig was cost saving measure. Great stuff! I could go on and on...
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01-23-2010, 09:04 PM | #17 |
Cobra Intel
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Its the little Hasbro house... or whatever.
Yeah, I got the chance to check it out at the store before buying it. The price guide is the least part of its value to me. One, I'm not that interested in that either. Two, it doesn't stay current. I'm normally not into collector's guide either. The last Joe one I got was Tomart's 1993 one. What I saw at the store was a very complete collectors guide with great pics showing all the figs, vehicles, and accessories. What I found when I got home was all the great additional info behind the characters and toys. I've been keeping it by my bed and read through a few pages from time to time before going to sleep. |
01-23-2010, 09:44 PM | #18 |
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Actually, no, don't scan the pic.
These types of books are done by collectors for collectors and take great amounts of time and money to produce with very little return other than the satisfaction of creating it. Scanning and reproducing it in whole or part only hurts the authors and creators and hurts the chances that we get more items like this in the future. I am sure someone with the guide can give a full description of the art in question. can someone take a photo of it so we can get some sort of a idea on what you are looking at? |
01-23-2010, 09:49 PM | #19 |
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Actually, no, don't scan the pic.
These types of books are done by collectors for collectors and take great amounts of time and money to produce with very little return other than the satisfaction of creating it. Scanning and reproducing it in whole or part only hurts the authors and creators and hurts the chances that we get more items like this in the future. I am sure someone with the guide can give a full description of the art in question. In this day and age, I could probably go and torrent the book anyways. The guy asked a question, all we're asking for is to see the pic in question, to see if we can answer his question. Some of us have seen various Joe pics thru the years out of the guide book or from other sources. Christ, showing one pic isn't going to kill any chances of ever seeing a book like this again.
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01-23-2010, 10:15 PM | #20 |
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I dont know how to post a link but if I did this rigjht then I believe the picture you are looking for is on this site.
Mark Bellomo - The Ultimate Guide to G.I. Joe Volume 2 If this is the correct picture it is The concept art of an unproduced, unamed Native American Cobra agent. Last edited by carion; 01-23-2010 at 10:18 PM.. |
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