| Storm Shadow To Play An Even Bigger Role In G.I. Joe 2 | | Posted on 02-03-2010 at 09:32 PM by Shin Densetsu | |  | Allkpop has posted a new article which states that actor Lee Byung Hun, AKA Storm Shadow from G.I. Joe Rise of Cobra, will have a more substantial role in G.I. Joe 2. Also listed is the tentative start for filming this year, and pending release date in 2012: Korean actor Lee Byung Hun is set to receive a more substantial role in the sequel to G.I. Joe.
The character of Storm Shadow, played by the IRIS star, will be given more emphasis in the upcoming sequel to 2009’s G.I. Joe: The Rise of Cobra. Paramount Pictures acknowledged that Lee’s work contributed much to the success of the first film and are developing more stories around his character. Lee has been getting much attention outside of the Korean market recently for his roles in G.I. Joe and last years I Come with the Rain, where he starred along side Josh Hartnett and Japanese actor Takuya Kimura.
Filming for the sequel is scheduled to begin in August with a pending 2012 release.
Will Storm Shadow reveal to Snake Eyes that he did not kill the Hard Master? This was shown not only in the G.I. Joe Rise of Cobra Official Movie Adaptation by IDW Publishing but was also confirmed by Stephen Sommers in an interview prior to the premiere of the movie last year. Will Storm Shadow defect to the G.I. Joe team?
| | Credit: allkpop | Views: 2,094 | | Troynos: Interesting.
I don't think RoC Storm Shadow can defect to the Joes. He's done some pretty horrible things well working for MARS/Cobra.
If you think about it, Marvel Storm Shadow was never shown doing evil things well working for Cobra, so it's easier to believe that he was working undercover and still had his honor.
RoC Storm Shadow on the other hand, he's just evil. Freedom: I agree.
While I liked the Marvel Storm Shadow, I also like Storm Shadow being evil on other continuities.
With the RoC universe, I'd rather he stay evil. Mainly because it already "appears" The Baroness is now good. Too many bad guys turning good will get old. chief_1: Quote:
Originally Posted by Troynos Interesting.
I don't think RoC Storm Shadow can defect to the Joes. He's done some pretty horrible things well working for MARS/Cobra.
If you think about it, Marvel Storm Shadow was never shown doing evil things well working for Cobra, so it's easier to believe that he was working undercover and still had his honor.
RoC Storm Shadow on the other hand, he's just evil. |
I don't know... They gave him the "doesn't kill girls" thing... Opens the door for a good writer to put him at least on the path to being good again... Troynos: And the idea of using "nanomite brainwashing" won't stick because the Baroness, though brainwashed, still enjoyed the bad deeds she did.
Which would mean that SS would as well. Which means he's not the honorable guy from the comics.
Not really Chief. ALot of bad guys thru history and in media had the "no women, no children" thing. sparhawk: Just blame those lousy nanomites! They made him blow up that Waffle Tower. chief_1: Quote:
Originally Posted by Troynos And the idea of using "nanomite brainwashing" won't stick because the Baroness, though brainwashed, still enjoyed the bad deeds she did.
Which would mean that SS would as well. Which means he's not the honorable guy from the comics.
Not really Chief. ALot of bad guys thru history and in media had the "no women, no children" thing. | I guess i just had my hopes up that the sequel would somehow involve SE and SS storming the White House to get Zartan... Troynos: Now if they really want to make SS turn good, that would have to be in the 3rd movie. The 2nd would have to involve him doing something so horrible that it kind of wakes him up to what he's been doing, how he's been acting and how it doesn't honor anyone's memory.
He would need to have an eiphany (sp?). A moment where he goes "what have I done" and then runs off and meditates for awhile. chief_1: I'll take any plot line that gives us a 3rd movie! TheLongestDay: Quote:
Originally Posted by chief_1 I don't know... They gave him the "doesn't kill girls" thing... Opens the door for a good writer to put him at least on the path to being good again... | Exactly - plus hes all about honor and doing his job...which means doing whatever is necessary.
Id LOVE to see him join the joes....or even coming in at the end to make the save for Snake Eyes (maybe they can both team up against Firefly??) Zartanman: Wow I'm Shocked you mean he wasn't really dead? LMAO Troynos: Quote:
Originally Posted by TheLongestDay Exactly - plus hes all about honor and doing his job...which means doing whatever is necessary.
Id LOVE to see him join the joes....or even coming in at the end to make the save for Snake Eyes (maybe they can both team up against Firefly??) | But he wasn't about honor. There was no honor in RoC Storm Shadow.
"Doing whatever is necessary" and "honor" are opposites. Doing things honorably gets rid of the necessary part, as there are some things that just can't be done. dsrader: Quote:
Originally Posted by sparhawk Just blame those lousy nanomites! They made him blow up that Waffle Tower. | lol Steel Brigade: That's good news, Lee Byung Hun's potrayal of Storm Shadow was one of the best things about ROC. Zoltron: Quote:
Originally Posted by Troynos
Not really Chief. ALot of bad guys thru history and in media had the "no women, no children" thing. | That's good to know. Good luck boy hisstankers!
Thanking you in advance for being a human shield,
Elsa Shin Densetsu: Quote:
Originally Posted by Troynos Interesting.
I don't think RoC Storm Shadow can defect to the Joes. He's done some pretty horrible things well working for MARS/Cobra.
If you think about it, Marvel Storm Shadow was never shown doing evil things well working for Cobra, so it's easier to believe that he was working undercover and still had his honor.
RoC Storm Shadow on the other hand, he's just evil. | In the Marvel/DDP continuity, it's said that he has done bad things but it's never explained in detail. Who knows what he did "offscreen"? The guy was Cobra Commander's bodyguard and one of his most trusted operatives.
As for ROC Storm Shadow being evil? How do we know that the PIT troopers he sliced up aren't dead? Hawk wasn't dead. Hell Storm Shadow had the same beast pistol as Baroness but didn't kill Hawk, he didn't even use it. Didn't kill Duke in the arctic. Didn't kill Snake Eyes. There is nothing about him in the movie that makes him inherently evil. Maybe letting Cover Girl die was necessary in his eyes as to not blow his cover(no pun intended). In that respect, he walks a similar gray area that IDW's General Hawk treads. Quote:
Originally Posted by Freedom I agree.
While I liked the Marvel Storm Shadow, I also like Storm Shadow being evil on other continuities.
With the RoC universe, I'd rather he stay evil. Mainly because it already "appears" The Baroness is now good. Too many bad guys turning good will get old. | I think the Baroness turning good is just temporary. Traditionally she has never been completely good. Plus if she turns for the worse(goes bad again), it gives Duke even more of a catalyst to destroy Cobra and Rex. The guy would have nothing left if Baroness returns to Cobra willingly. Quote:
Originally Posted by chief_1 I don't know... They gave him the "doesn't kill girls" thing... Opens the door for a good writer to put him at least on the path to being good again... | Exactly. In the IDW movie adaptation, it's implied that if the girl was Zartan, he would make an exception. Pretty bad ass when he said that. It's kind of a vague, indirect reference to Zartan framing Storm Shadow for the death of the Hard Master in the Marvel continuity; which judging by how Storm Shadow DIDN'T kill Hard Master in the movie, according to Sommers and the IDW adaptation... Quote:
Originally Posted by Troynos And the idea of using "nanomite brainwashing" won't stick because the Baroness, though brainwashed, still enjoyed the bad deeds she did.
Which would mean that SS would as well. Which means he's not the honorable guy from the comics.
Not really Chief. ALot of bad guys thru history and in media had the "no women, no children" thing. | Quote:
Originally Posted by Troynos Now if they really want to make SS turn good, that would have to be in the 3rd movie. The 2nd would have to involve him doing something so horrible that it kind of wakes him up to what he's been doing, how he's been acting and how it doesn't honor anyone's memory.
He would need to have an eiphany (sp?). A moment where he goes "what have I done" and then runs off and meditates for awhile. | Well that's kind of what he did in the Marvel continuity. Revenge had consumed him to the point that it blinded him. He took a timeout in Snake Eyes' log cabin. In any case, movies like this and Transformers tend to use the broad generalizations of the characters; portraying them broadly as the characters we knew back in the day. For example, Megatron is a tyrant, Jetfire is a weak explorer, Starscream is a traiterous air commander, Prime is a strong leader who defends all life, Ironhide wants to kill shit; that kind of thing. With Storm Shadow?
Storm Shadow(Resolute aside) has typically been portrayed as a heroic figure who has personal demons and must live a lie to find the truth. That's the defining aspect of his character. Without that, he just a generic ninja in white who is only in white because Snake Eyes is in black and for some reason the yin/yang comparison this evokes seems cool to some fans. Well that and he, like Snake Eyes is a ninja.
So give me the Storm Shadow with more depth over the Storm Shadow who is all evil just to be a foil for Snake Eyes. I don't mind seeing them fight and seeing something divide them, but to have Storm Shadow as just some evil ninja? Don't we have enough of that already?
In Sigma 6 Storm Shadow is a Joe who is brainwashed by Cobra. Throughout the "new sculpt" years, he was always branded as a ninja with unknown motives, this was always open to interpretation but it was always hinted at that he was never truly supporting Cobra. Quote:
Originally Posted by TheLongestDay Exactly - plus hes all about honor and doing his job...which means doing whatever is necessary.
Id LOVE to see him join the joes....or even coming in at the end to make the save for Snake Eyes (maybe they can both team up against Firefly??) | True. I'd LOVE to see Snake Eyes take on Firefly. I think that is a great rival for him. Let Storm Shadow take on Zartan. Storm Shadow was known to be lesser in skill with the shuriken and sword to Snake Eyes, and possibly lesser in skill in archery than Zartan; yet even though Zartan studied under Onihashi, Storm Shadow is the better swordsman... TheLongestDay: Quote:
Originally Posted by Troynos But he wasn't about honor. There was no honor in RoC Storm Shadow.
"Doing whatever is necessary" and "honor" are opposites. Doing things honorably gets rid of the necessary part, as there are some things that just can't be done. | its all about perception.
Just because Storm Shadow has a "code of honor" doesnt mean he does honorable things by common standards.
His code of honor could just mean "complete the mission" for example.
...now if they are following the comics we know hes only doing those bad things while hes undercover... Troynos: Bah, keep Storm Shadow evil. It's where he always should have been and stayed. sparhawk: Quote:
Originally Posted by Zoltron That's good to know. Good luck boy hisstankers!
Thanking you in advance for being a human shield,
Elsa | Hey, HEY. I make quite the dashing Meat Shield. Freedom: Quote:
Originally Posted by chief_1 I guess i just had my hopes up that the sequel would somehow involve SE and SS storming the White House to get Zartan... | You can still have that without Storm Shadow being good. chief_1: SS can stay evil... Jut picture Zartan going crazy with power, Cobra can't control him, Joe's can't stop him...
Time for a couple of ninjas to team up against a common enemy... Shin Densetsu: Quote:
Originally Posted by Troynos Bah, keep Storm Shadow evil. It's where he always should have been and stayed. | Never. Leave generic evil ninjas in the numerous 70's/80's ninja flicks. Storm Shadow's bad assery is due in part because he had to live a lie to find the truth. ROC left it open to whether he did it or not, but I'm inclined to think that's what he was doing the entire time. Troynos: Here's something that's bugged me for awhile...
In Marvel, SS joins Cobra because CC promises to tell him who really killed the Hard Master.
How long is SS going to wait? Seriously? Wouldn't, at some point, he use Cobra's computers and finding nothing out confront the Commander?
It would have to be obvious to him, unless he was a complete idiot (which he's not), that the Commander was protecting someone, that would be the only reason why the Commander would keep putting SS off.
But even with that, how long was he working for Cobra and why didn't he step up earlier?
At a certain point, he'd have to (if he was really good and working undercover) get tired of getting the run around from CC and become more proactive in the search. Shin Densetsu: Quote:
Originally Posted by Troynos Here's something that's bugged me for awhile...
In Marvel, SS joins Cobra because CC promises to tell him who really killed the Hard Master.
How long is SS going to wait? Seriously? Wouldn't, at some point, he use Cobra's computers and finding nothing out confront the Commander?
It would have to be obvious to him, unless he was a complete idiot (which he's not), that the Commander was protecting someone, that would be the only reason why the Commander would keep putting SS off.
But even with that, how long was he working for Cobra and why didn't he step up earlier?
At a certain point, he'd have to (if he was really good and working undercover) get tired of getting the run around from CC and become more proactive in the search. | That promise came later, when he joined them initially it was because he saw their sigil on the helicopter that was evacuating Zartan(whom he didn't know was Zartan at the time). It was obvious in the books too that his patience was wearing thin with Cobra Commander as well. If he pressed the issue it would make it obvious that he was onto something and risk losing more leads from Cobra Commander.
I mean hell if he comes back just as an evil ninja in G.I. Joe 2, what's the point? He might as well been left in ROC. I mean if he's evil, what's he going to say?
"RAWR! I came back from the dead bitch! THAT WAS SOME COLD WATER YOU THREW ME IN SNAKE EYES, NOT COOL BRO NOT COOL(well okay it was COOL literally but not in the slang-way)" Troynos: No it wouldn't. CC would talk if there was a sword tip pointing at his eyeball. Shin Densetsu: Quote:
Originally Posted by Troynos No it wouldn't. CC would talk if there was a sword tip pointing at his eyeball. | Doesn't matter it's not like IDW is going to retcon that part out in #155 & 1/2 onward.
Anyways back to the movie. Storm Shadow is better as a conflicted, tragic hero. Evil ninja=boring. chief_1: Quote:
Originally Posted by Shin Densetsu Doesn't matter it's not like IDW is going to retcon that part out in #155 & 1/2 onward.
Anyways back to the movie. Storm Shadow is better as a conflicted, tragic hero. Evil ninja=boring. |
Evil ninja forced to team up with good ninja=Awesome! Arashikage-Sith: Awesome! Now there's a hope to bring some more complication to Storm Shadow's dark personality! Shin Densetsu: Quote:
Originally Posted by chief_1 Evil ninja forced to team up with good ninja=Awesome! | I'd rather have conflicted tragic heroic ninja who returns and fights alongside Snake Eyes rather than the whole "I am the lesser of 2 evils, I will join you and fight the greater evil; for now..." chief_1: Honestly, after all of the Delta-6 suits and other high tech gadgets, i am looking forward to some good old fashioned beat downs, ninja style... Troynos: I've never seen Storm Shadow as heroic. Conflicted, yes. Tragic, no.
Snake-Eyes is tragic. He didn't choose his path, it was chosen for him.
Storm Shadow chose his path and knew exactly what he was doing when he chose it. He willingly joined a corrupt organization to further his own goals.
Nothing heroic there. It's actually pretty mercenary.
Now, that being said, starting off with a more evil Storm Shadow actually gives a better beginning to his path to becoming a hero. In this case it becomes about redemption, making atonement for the crimes he commited.
Like I said in a previous post, he gets an epihany and realizes "this is not how I honor my family and my uncle" and realizes he chose the wrong path long ago and now seeks to atone for it.
The conflicted part comes into play with him having been a villian for so long, the hero shoes are hard to wear and he keeps slipping back to old habits.
Conflicted would mean he had to constantly fight between his good and bad sides. Didn't really do that in the comic. Once he went good, the only things that brought him back to evil was brainwashing.
Why did he run anyways after the death of the Hard Master? Turning himself in would have helped prove he didn't do it. And if there were practioners that could change their heartbeat, figuring out if someone was lying to them should have been child's play.
Naw, having him be bad and try to redeem himself would be the way to go. Especially if he didn't kill the Hard Master. He's commited evil, something that his uncle would never approve of, and how he must redeem himself in the eyes of his ancestors. Steelgrave: I never liked or cared about Storm Shadow but he ended up being my favorite thing about ROC. CallMeChuckles: I like how it's all making big deal that he didn't kill Hard Master! There all like "LOOK were using SOURCE matirial!! WHOA!!! EDGY!!!" HA! We'll see when we see! Snake Shadow09: ss wont joe the joes in part 2, maybe part 3. Snake Shadow09: Quote:
Originally Posted by Troynos I've never seen Storm Shadow as heroic. Conflicted, yes. Tragic, no.
Snake-Eyes is tragic. He didn't choose his path, it was chosen for him.
Storm Shadow chose his path and knew exactly what he was doing when he chose it. He willingly joined a corrupt organization to further his own goals.
Nothing heroic there. It's actually pretty mercenary.
Now, that being said, starting off with a more evil Storm Shadow actually gives a better beginning to his path to becoming a hero. In this case it becomes about redemption, making atonement for the crimes he commited.
Like I said in a previous post, he gets an epihany and realizes "this is not how I honor my family and my uncle" and realizes he chose the wrong path long ago and now seeks to atone for it.
The conflicted part comes into play with him having been a villian for so long, the hero shoes are hard to wear and he keeps slipping back to old habits.
Conflicted would mean he had to constantly fight between his good and bad sides. Didn't really do that in the comic. Once he went good, the only things that brought him back to evil was brainwashing.
Why did he run anyways after the death of the Hard Master? Turning himself in would have helped prove he didn't do it. And if there were practioners that could change their heartbeat, figuring out if someone was lying to them should have been child's play.
Naw, having him be bad and try to redeem himself would be the way to go. Especially if he didn't kill the Hard Master. He's commited evil, something that his uncle would never approve of, and how he must redeem himself in the eyes of his ancestors. | great post! Shin Densetsu: Quote:
Originally Posted by Troynos I've never seen Storm Shadow as heroic. Conflicted, yes. Tragic, no.
Snake-Eyes is tragic. He didn't choose his path, it was chosen for him.
Storm Shadow chose his path and knew exactly what he was doing when he chose it. He willingly joined a corrupt organization to further his own goals.
Nothing heroic there. It's actually pretty mercenary.
Now, that being said, starting off with a more evil Storm Shadow actually gives a better beginning to his path to becoming a hero. In this case it becomes about redemption, making atonement for the crimes he commited.
Like I said in a previous post, he gets an epihany and realizes "this is not how I honor my family and my uncle" and realizes he chose the wrong path long ago and now seeks to atone for it.
The conflicted part comes into play with him having been a villian for so long, the hero shoes are hard to wear and he keeps slipping back to old habits.
Conflicted would mean he had to constantly fight between his good and bad sides. Didn't really do that in the comic. Once he went good, the only things that brought him back to evil was brainwashing.
Why did he run anyways after the death of the Hard Master? Turning himself in would have helped prove he didn't do it. And if there were practioners that could change their heartbeat, figuring out if someone was lying to them should have been child's play.
Naw, having him be bad and try to redeem himself would be the way to go. Especially if he didn't kill the Hard Master. He's commited evil, something that his uncle would never approve of, and how he must redeem himself in the eyes of his ancestors. | If we are talking about the Marvel continuity, Snake Eyes was GIVEN everything. Heir to the Clan. Ownership of the Clan. Favored over the blood relative of the Clan masters(Storm Shadow).
Storm Shadow was conflicted. Jealous of Snake Eyes. initially brought him onboard to ease his grief, had no idea Snake Eyes would ever be in a position to replace him.
Conflicted? Yes? They were friends after all.
Storm Shadow ran away from the scene to chase after the assassin who killed The Hard Master. Sticking around would have wasted everyone's time. His arrow was in Hard Master's body, being that things were already tense with Snake Eyes, its's not like anyone will believe him if he denies killing Hard Master.
Same would go for the movie. Everyone knew he bore animosity towards Snake Eyes and of course everyone is going to think he killed the Hard Master. Meanwhile, the killer flees. Better to follow the guy than to waste time trying to prove that you are innocent. Shin Densetsu: Quote:
Originally Posted by Snake Shadow09 ss wont joe the joes in part 2, maybe part 3. | We don't know who he is joining. Shin Densetsu: Quote:
Originally Posted by CallMeChuckles I like how it's all making big deal that he didn't kill Hard Master! There all like "LOOK were using SOURCE matirial!! WHOA!!! EDGY!!!" HA! We'll see when we see! | Better story if he didn't kill him. Gives more to explore. This is canon aside too. Shin Densetsu: Quote:
Originally Posted by chief_1 Honestly, after all of the Delta-6 suits and other high tech gadgets, i am looking forward to some good old fashioned beat downs, ninja style... | Yeah let M.A.R.S. have the cool/stylish tech just like Cobra always had. I like to see Joes against the odds, makes for a more entertaining story. Troynos: Quote:
Originally Posted by Shin Densetsu If we are talking about the Marvel continuity, Snake Eyes was GIVEN everything. Heir to the Clan. Ownership of the Clan. Favored over the blood relative of the Clan masters(Storm Shadow). | He EARNED it, big difference. He was given the oppotunity by Storm Shadow, but everything else he earned the hard way.
SS never felt bad about being jealous of SE, that would have been him being conflicted, thinking to himself "I hate that I brought him here, he's better then me" and then following with "but he's earned it, he deserves it more". joedelta: he could be brainwashed along with the other baddies except zartan. so i can see him turning good if they use that angle. Shin Densetsu: Quote:
Originally Posted by Troynos He EARNED it, big difference. He was given the oppotunity by Storm Shadow, but everything else he earned the hard way.
SS never felt bad about being jealous of SE, that would have been him being conflicted, thinking to himself "I hate that I brought him here, he's better then me" and then following with "but he's earned it, he deserves it more". | Yeah but he realizes that revenge has consumed him. Not to mention everything is cleared up by Master and Apprentice vol II. In the DDP run there was a point where he started to break free but chose to remain at Cobra Commander's side. Later in Master and Apprentice, he breaks free completely and lashes out at Snake Eyes; but later they get along.
As for being better? It has always been left to interpretation. Both grew as warriors after leaving Japan. It's always been said that Snake Eyes is superior with blades/shurikens but Storm Shadow is master at archery and the technique "the ear that sees".
Yeah Snake Eyes earned stuff by trials but what Storm Shadow had to endure afterwards comparably. Snake Eyes is trusted by his allies. Storm Shadow? Even his own family thought he did his uncle in. Storm Shadow had to live a lie to find the truth. Snake eyes brought an uzi and sword along and it was all good.
Sure Snake Eyes had it bad before Japan. Yet I think after Japan, Storm Shadow had it much worse. Things did not start looking up until later in the DDP run when he finally broke free of brainwashing and became the Phoenix Master. CQBViper: I like Storm Shadow as a foil to Snake Eyes. Conflicted is fine, but keep him in Cobra. SNAKE_EYES1975: if this really DOES come out in 2012, its entirely possible that Mayan prophecy crap could actually come true.... chief_1: Quote:
Originally Posted by SNAKE_EYES1975 if this really DOES come out in 2012, its entirely possible that Mayan prophecy crap could actually come true.... |
If the end of the world is tied to a movie release, i think we all would have been screwed when Masters of the Universe came out... Shin Densetsu: Quote:
Originally Posted by chief_1 If the end of the world is tied to a movie release, i think we all would have been screwed when Masters of the Universe came out... | Ivan Drago's fists have the psi of 9,000lb. It is simple. Whatever he hits, he destroys. HE MUST BE A MASTER OF THE UNIVERSE! CG82: A terrorist and mass murderer(lets not forget he nearly wiped out Paris, so much for not killing women stupid shit they gave him) like SS cannot just turn good and magically defect to GI JOE. You do not just "turn good" and then become a member of the elite US military unit, even if the movie version is changed to an international elite military unit. CrimsonGuard101: Oh come on, they must be doing a retro movie cause hes techincally a dead character falling into the arctic water liek he did, what he do? Swim away on his own under tons of acrtic ice? Good luck explaining that away if its a continuation film. Going any further back in time and then having him profess his innocence that he was not the one who killed hard master is pretty lame as well. And having him joing the joes so soon? I can see Baroness and Storm Shadow are now joes in sommers f'ed up universe by way of nanomite reproramming the joes develop and creating Anti-Cobrala a GI JOE sci-fi based nanomite technology used to fight Darth Commander and the Imperial Douchbag Turtle vipers while he has Destromeo build a orbiting Hexagonal death star to take th ebattle to ininfity and beyond!
This is going to be good, I can not wait (sarcastically speaking) to what they try and pull off next...Duke was actually injected with nanomites and we did not see it so he becomes Serpentor?
HA ha.. ha... CobraCrimson: Hmm, so movie isn't until 2012 now? Then are we going to see a return to the 25th/ME line sometime in later 2011? I mean, that's if in fact we still are getting Pursuit of Cobra later this year, I'd expect it to run at least until mid-2011 then. Maybe a return to the 25th/ME mid (Summer) 2011 through early-mid 2012 and then movie line 2 starts up? Shin Densetsu: Quote:
Originally Posted by CobraCrimson Hmm, so movie isn't until 2012 now? Then are we going to see a return to the 25th/ME line sometime in later 2011? I mean, that's if in fact we still are getting Pursuit of Cobra later this year, I'd expect it to run at least until mid-2011 then. Maybe a return to the 25th/ME mid (Summer) 2011 through early-mid 2012 and then movie line 2 starts up? | Well the 30th anniversary is 2012 so if we are getting any Modern Era stuff I imagine it would be by then(but hopefully MUCH sooner, I wasn't happy with the hiatus of Modern Era stuff). | All times are GMT -4. The time now is 12:59 PM. | | Cool Stuff | | |