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10-30-2009, 10:17 AM | #11 |
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So besides the developers, what about this is so great? What's unique about it?
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10-30-2009, 10:46 AM | #12 |
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Bioware as a developer has a long history of putting out some of the best story-driven and character-driven computer and console role-playing games on the market (and wrapping them in good gameplay, to boot). It's generally accepted that they've basically never put out a game that was less than "good" and most veer sharply towards "great." This game also marks their first "next gen" foray into western-style fantasy, and is being billed as a "spiritual successor" to the Baldur's Gate series, which is considered by many to be the best PC RPG series ever. Basically, they're arguably the best publisher of "Western style" role-playing games (as opposed to "Japanese style") in the world. Only Bethesda (makers of the Elder Scrolls series and Fallout 3) could probably give any sort of challenge for the title. So basically yes, people are excited about the game based on the reputation of the developers and their more-than-consistent track record within the genre. Now if RPGs aren't your thing, then you probably won't care for the game (just like I don't give a hoot about Modern Warfare 2 even if it's the best FPS in the world...I don't like FPS games). If they are...you'd pretty much already know why people are excited. I'll say this: It's highly unlikely that this is a Japanese-style "button clicker/turn-based" RPG (as far as the combat interface goes). It's also being advertised as a considerably darker and more mature story than most fantasy RPGs (and while promises like that from most developers would basically amount to little more than "BOOBIES AND BLOOD", Bioware's track record of top-notch storytelling makes it something to look forward to). Last edited by Jmacq1; 10-30-2009 at 10:57 AM.. |
10-30-2009, 10:50 AM | #13 |
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Bioware has a huge string of fantastic games behind it -Baldur's Gate I and II, Jade Empire, Knights of the Old Republic, and Mass Effect are all FANTASTIC games.
I'd give the nod to Bioware in terms of "story driven" RPGs. Bethesda would take the title for "biggest sandbox/most immersive" game, and the two clearly approach the genre with different aesthetics. Both make fabulous games, but Bioware probably produces a more taut, character-driven story. Asking "what's so special about a Bioware game" is kind of like asking "What's so special about a Clint Eastwood film?" Well, gee, the guy primarily responsible for making it has a long string of fantastic movies behind him, that's what's so special.
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10-30-2009, 11:16 AM | #14 |
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Is it a free roaming world? One questline?
I mean, what are they saying are the features that would set this apart from other RPGs?
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10-30-2009, 11:23 AM | #15 |
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Bioware tends to make a more linear story than Bethesda...but that doesn't make it linear exactly. There will be a central storyline and many sidequests that will probably relate to the central storyline...further, most of the sidequests are likely to be really character driven, i.e., doing them will lead to character development for you and your NPC party members. It is also unlikely that it will matter much what order you do the quests in...usually in a Bioware game you can take on the quests in whatever order you choose, excepting main storyline trigger events. Furthermore, Bioware excels at making your choices matter; making good and evil choices will affect how people perceive you, will affect what other quests you might get access too, etc etc. Bioware characters are also often really, really well-written, too. They are interesting people, and the ability to only develop a few of the NPCs as your close companions at a time is one of the features that makes a Bioware worth replaying. Sure, you could just go read what happens to the various NPCs on a Walkthrough, but it's more fun to find out yourself. Jolee Bindo and Minsc (and Boo!) and Edwin Odesseiron and Jan Janssen stand up as fantastic examples of characters from their genre as revealed through the course of a game.
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10-30-2009, 11:27 AM | #16 |
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I'm just kind of confused by your questioning. If you were genuinely that curious, googling "Dragon Age" isn't that hard (and probably faster than asking here), and if RPGs are among your preferred genres, I find it hard to believe you wouldn't already have heard and known about all of this. Maybe I'm mistaken, but I get the impression you're coming at this from a "I don't really like RPGs, is there some reason I should like this one?" angle. I apologize if I'm misreading, but that's the feeling I've gotten. Last edited by Jmacq1; 10-30-2009 at 11:36 AM.. |
10-30-2009, 11:44 AM | #17 |
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Which "other RPGs?" They're not exactly all the same to begin with. Do you want it compared to a Final Fantasy game or to Oblivion?
I'm just kind of confused by your questioning. If you were genuinely that curious, googling "Dragon Age" isn't that hard (and probably faster than asking here), and if RPGs are among your preferred genres, I find it hard to believe you wouldn't already have heard and known about all of this. Maybe I'm mistaken, but I get the impression you're coming at this from a "I don't really like RPGs, is there some reason I should like this one?" angle. I apologize if I'm misreading, but that's the feeling I've gotten. Haven't read up on it yet. Really looking to see what makes it stand out from Oblivion, Morrowwind, Neverwinter Nights, Baldur's Gates, etc.. Besides being by Bioware, what makes this different from others in the genre?
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10-30-2009, 11:57 AM | #18 |
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OK, sorry for the misunderstanding, I'm genuinely surprised you haven't heard about this already. Though now that I think about it, it's probably not being hyped as much as Mass Effect 2 which doesn't come out for a few more months, or The Old Republic which probably isn't coming until late next yeare.
It'll definitely be more like Neverwinter Nights or Baldur's Gate than Oblivion or Morrowind (this is the same developer that made the former two). As noted, they're billing this as a "spiritual successor" to Baldur's Gate (though it takes place in an original fantasy setting, not the D&D/Forgotten Realms-verse). Have you played The Witcher? The impression I've gotten from a lot of the pre-release stuff is that the game is kind of like Baldur's Gate ("old school" western RPG with lots of NPC selections) meets Knights of the Old Republic (Party Management/Battle elements) meets The Witcher (in terms of the "tone" of the setting)...with a little bit of Mass Effect (morality/conversation elements) tossed in for good measure, and some "original" stuff as well, I'm sure (though most of that will be revealed through actual gameplay...can't think of anything that sticks out in my head at the moment). Expect FAR more focus on character development (from a personality/backstory perspective) than you get in the Elder Scrolls series. Irid70 explained a lot of the questline stuff, but the philosophy that Bioware developers have been pushing for this game has been called "Massively Single-Player Role Playing Game." Basically they're trying to craft a world that's as expansive and "deep" as you get with MMOs but in a single-player form. If their promises are to be believed, there's going to be a TON of content in this game (and more to come as downloadable content). Like most RPGs there'll be a "main" questline with a lot of side/sub quests. The "main quest" portions are likely fairly linear within each segment, but the segments (except for the last or perhaps last few) can usually be accomplished in any order you like. Another feature they've talked about is spell interactivity. Like if one party member casts a "grease" spell and another one casts a "firebolt" spell you end up with "flaming grease" (which might be a hazard to party members and opponents alike), but you can put it out with a "blizzard" spell. Supposedly the combat system is quite deep in terms of the strategy involved and the game is said to be quite challenging, even with a well-balanced party (and darn near impossible if you don't have a well-balanced party). Early reviews are saying it's definitely not just a "keep clicking the button and you'll win" game when it comes to many of the combat encounters. You actually have to approach many of the battles in a tactical manner to win, even (or especially) late in the game. Last edited by Jmacq1; 10-30-2009 at 12:11 PM.. |
10-30-2009, 12:21 PM | #19 |
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It's not free roaming like fable, but it is free roaming until you reach the final stage (if it plays like other bioware games).
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10-30-2009, 12:30 PM | #20 |
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I found Dragon Age looking for ME2. Mass Effect is easily my favorite game. It is the only one that I have ever played through a couple of times. There is apparently a Dragon Armor available for ME2 of you get Dragon Age so I was looking at that and kinda fell in love with what Dragon Age looks like. I am preordered for Dragon Age and will preorder ME2 for the advanced armor that comes with the preorder.
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