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#1 Cardboard $9.99 | 0 | 0% | |
#2 Cardboard Pop Up $14.99 | 2 | 3.92% | |
#3 Cardboard Deluxe Small $14.99 | 1 | 1.96% | |
#4 Cardboard Deluxe Large $19.99 | 2 | 3.92% | |
#5 Plastic $24.99 | 1 | 1.96% | |
#6 Plastic Deluxe Buildable $24.99 | 17 | 33.33% | |
#7 Plastic Deluxe Stackable $14.99 | 4 | 7.84% | |
#8 Do-It-Myself | 29 | 56.86% | |
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04-16-2010, 10:53 AM | #41 |
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Those are great! what did you use for the "steps"?
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Not the bookshelves, but the CD/DVD holders. Turn em sideways so they are long wise and use wood to build little bleachers/risers accross the width of the cabinet. These are some pics of them I took a while ago, not the best but it should kinda give the idea of what I was shooting for. Use some of IKEAs custom shelveing arms to hold em up like shelves basically.
Its basically like 100-120 figs per display in a format where you can see each figure kinda like a huge class picture lol... I have 3 of these setup for all 25th/Resolute joes, 25th/Resolute Cobra and one for ROC which is mostly full of all my ROC to 25th/ME conversions.
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04-16-2010, 12:50 PM | #42 |
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I like the concept, just wish it were bigger. You should think of the hutch or shelving where this diorama is going to be placed. I think LEGO does an amazing job with what they have and it very minimalistic. If someone told me I could get two sturdy cardboard displays with a back and a base, I would get it in a heartbeat. you could extend it just for the sides on the vertical display board, that would be amazing as well as give it some depth. Of the following, I know I would try and get them all.
DOCKING BAY 97 HOTH HANGAR DEATH STAR DUEL W/Falcon IN THE HANGAR YAVIN HANGAR AREA TRENCH RUN MOS EISLEY nieghborhood. A cut out of an AT-AT would be amazing/like a wall applique but its 5 foot tall. Lego has an amazing display and there is really alot you can do with it. It you add into the fact that these displays could be lined up or stacked to make a bigger display, it would be amazing. Small displays are great, but Im wondering if people want to display take over the entire shelf so its almost like a windowbox of a scene rather than a small backdrop. |
04-16-2010, 01:37 PM | #43 |
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3 Questions....You like the concept of? I assume you mean my BDS system at displayabilitystands.com ? What LEGO displays?
I am looking into larger sizes of the BDS but the price goes up the bigger you get. The original Vinylz series could not stand on its own and that was a major deterrent from sales, which is why we designed the BDS as it is with the base...so it can now stand : ) Me personally, love the idea of cardboard backdrops and have a few ideas in my back pocket about it. My main questions...along with the majority of consumers out there....how would they attach to you shelving unit? How would they stand? What Kind of price point is acceptable? Does it have it be cardboard or could it just be a poster that you would mount on the wall behind your figs? What standard size would be acceptable? The main problem I see is the size difference between all the different shelving units and display systems out there. I could special order any size of any art but that would be way too costly. Help a brother out and give me all the answers : ) PS: No independent company does Star Wars (or any Licensed) Dio's becasue the license would drive the price beyond acceptable, and Hasbro just doesn't really care : ( Quote:
I like the concept, just wish it were bigger. You should think of the hutch or shelving where this diorama is going to be placed. I think LEGO does an amazing job with what they have and it very minimalistic. If someone told me I could get two sturdy cardboard displays with a back and a base, I would get it in a heartbeat. you could extend it just for the sides on the vertical display board, that would be amazing as well as give it some depth. Of the following, I know I would try and get them all.
DOCKING BAY 97 HOTH HANGAR DEATH STAR DUEL W/Falcon IN THE HANGAR YAVIN HANGAR AREA TRENCH RUN MOS EISLEY nieghborhood. A cut out of an AT-AT would be amazing/like a wall applique but its 5 foot tall. Lego has an amazing display and there is really alot you can do with it. It you add into the fact that these displays could be lined up or stacked to make a bigger display, it would be amazing. Small displays are great, but Im wondering if people want to display take over the entire shelf so its almost like a windowbox of a scene rather than a small backdrop.
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04-16-2010, 09:15 PM | #44 |
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3 Questions....You like the concept of? I assume you mean my BDS system at displayabilitystands.com ? What LEGO displays?
I am looking into larger sizes of the BDS but the price goes up the bigger you get. The original Vinylz series could not stand on its own and that was a major deterrent from sales, which is why we designed the BDS as it is with the base...so it can now stand : ) Me personally, love the idea of cardboard backdrops and have a few ideas in my back pocket about it. My main questions...along with the majority of consumers out there....how would they attach to you shelving unit? How would they stand? What Kind of price point is acceptable? Does it have it be cardboard or could it just be a poster that you would mount on the wall behind your figs? What standard size would be acceptable? The main problem I see is the size difference between all the different shelving units and display systems out there. I could special order any size of any art but that would be way too costly. Help a brother out and give me all the answers : ) PS: No independent company does Star Wars (or any Licensed) Dio's becasue the license would drive the price beyond acceptable, and Hasbro just doesn't really care : ( |
04-16-2010, 11:32 PM | #45 |
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You could do some type of modular deisgn that could expand in to larger units based on a smaller unit price per module/sectional/full display or the like. You then could use the same principal for the background poster/card art and it could evolve into a larger picture as each module or sectional is purchased. This kills some types of background potential if it is not diorama material, but for most scenery and arial aspects and ground effects kinda like we see behind most of the 7 packs, if when combined created a vastly intersting diorama view of awesome place/scene I think that would be really cool looking. Kinda plays into that completionist mentality a lot of us have too which is a good thing cause to finish the full diorama background, you gotta collect em all
Each base is 8x8 and the background is 8x8 BUT in the future we may even offer 16x16 base and backs for larger dio's OR larger scale figures. This design connects side by side with the artwork blending from one to another.....is nice : )
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04-17-2010, 09:07 AM | #46 |
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3 Questions....You like the concept of? I assume you mean my BDS system at displayabilitystands.com ? What LEGO displays?
I am looking into larger sizes of the BDS but the price goes up the bigger you get. The original Vinylz series could not stand on its own and that was a major deterrent from sales, which is why we designed the BDS as it is with the base...so it can now stand : ) Me personally, love the idea of cardboard backdrops and have a few ideas in my back pocket about it. My main questions...along with the majority of consumers out there....how would they attach to you shelving unit? How would they stand? What Kind of price point is acceptable? Does it have it be cardboard or could it just be a poster that you would mount on the wall behind your figs? What standard size would be acceptable? The main problem I see is the size difference between all the different shelving units and display systems out there. I could special order any size of any art but that would be way too costly. Help a brother out and give me all the answers : ) PS: No independent company does Star Wars (or any Licensed) Dio's becasue the license would drive the price beyond acceptable, and Hasbro just doesn't really care : ( |
04-18-2010, 09:01 AM | #47 |
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Wasn't offended brother! LOL, this is how I learn about the market. I know what I like as a collector and I know some of that would not be a good selling item (example: Vintage cardboard and vinyl playsets like Star Trek and Six Million Dollar Man and Star Wars cardboard playsets)
The sale price has killed many of my ideas that the market would have loved but would never have been affordable to : ( Lego store displays are awesome! Not sure how they could transfer on a smaller home scale at a good price yet though.....not with the same design anyhow....and shipping is a big consideration as well....if the item is $10 bu the shipping is $10 as well...then no one will ever buy it....it's a crazy crazy crazy world : 0 Good news on the disPLAYability front.....C2E2 was a great show (Got some personal insight from Steven Sansweet of Lucasfilm as well..THANK YOU STEVE!) The majority of retailers were very interested in the product and I was able to speak to some distributors as well...made some good contacts and the future looks bright! Quote:
Yeah, the concept, yours isnt the first display system, although the way you have presented it is new. A horizontal and vertical display to create the diorama is the basic display of many a Lego store diorama. If you could also add a side adapter [ ], almost like a square or rectangle, not only could you go side to side, you could also go up and down, this allows for a more customized diorama that could be the interior of a building, sub, death star etc. I know the size plays into a big issue vs affordability. No one says you have to use strictly star wars, I was just using them as an example, since they have the biggest piece of the action figure pie. Interior scenes like say that of an aircraft carrier or underground facility are definately of interest. As far as the shelves go, Im just going off on a tangent, most folks want to display thier figures in a scene or have it large enough to be impressive, trust me, you dont want to see what Ive got planned, its ridiculously expensive. Not that it will ever be built but its nice to dream on paper. I think your biggest problem will be the price point. I was also thinking of small stands that could attatch to the vertical cardboard display and be moved around or connected to show a backdrop to customize the interior of a shelf display. I know printing is expensive, perhaps you can do black and whites and allow the customer to "color" their own. It would definately cut your costs down as well as the selling price. I like an 8.5 x 11 idea, its a tad bigger than normal displays and you can have customers print it at home on thier own printer on whatever paper they want. No offense was meant when I said concept, but your version is new is just an extrapolation/evolution of what Lego and other manufactures have done. You are trying to fit a very niche market and frankly, Im very glad, the question is, can you make it affordable and attractive enough for folks to really want it. All of us hear have envied many a diorama but lack either the skill, the time or creativity. Your displayability definately adds a new path that we as collectors can take to display and play with our stuff, be it Joes or whatever. Again, no offense meant. Your ideas are very parallel to my own but different. At least you are getting it out there. I have some other ideas if you want to discuss them. I try to keep in mind that folks show more at Walmart than Nieman-Marcus.
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What did Steven Sansweet say? If you dont mind my asking. I had the good fortune of meeting the art director for ART ASYLUM, mr Manny DeJesus, 6 hours with him gave me a wealth of information on the industry and really how to approach making and selling a product. Case in point, the SOUTH BEND ELECTRONIC ENTERPRISE, to me this is one of the most amazing toys that came out. It was a modular ship that could be reconfigured in a number of different ways. My idea had been to duplicate this idea with the classic NCC-1701, hence, the Franz Joseph drawings in the STARFLEET TECHNICAL MANUAL could finally be done as well as other configurations. The SBEnt was based on the 1st movie Enterprise. I have about 6 of these and there is no sagging of the nacelles and they are just as solid now as they were 30 years ago. Manny peppered me with questions and frankly, I wasnt sure if he just hated the idea or really liked the idea and was trying to find pros and cons. Since ART ASYLUM was going for "hyperrealistic" toys, the whole fun factor was just in one ship at a time. My idea would have allowed for simple accessories to come out to change/accessorize the the ship. I had Adam Wong make a prototype and its simply amazing with just a paint job he did. Sadly, Ill doubt it ever comes to pass, but for me, I know its a great concept and should it ever see the shelves, Im sure fans and kids alike would enjoy it.
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04-18-2010, 11:02 AM | #49 |
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I've met Steve quite a few times at the cons and through a mutual friend I was able to attend a QVC halloween special as a stormtrooper. They filmed me prior to the show running around the halls of QVC to be used as promo for the upcoming show that day...that was cool and fun! Steven meets so many people I have to remind him each time about the QVC show then it all comes back LOL.
Anyway, Steve gave me advice on both the retail market as well as the wholesale market and which steps I should take to tackle, one, or both. Luckily for me, I have been on the right track! One thing surprised me though, he said that as a wholesaler at my "level" I should not worry about setting up at cons for the general consumer to see. I should take it directly to the distributors and retailers one-on-one, which is what I did yesterday. O was upset that I did not get product in time to set up for the show but as it turns out, I should not have anyway...so I feel lots better about that : ) So my plans are this 1. My R&D is finished and our current products are complete and being manufactured as is. Of course R&D is never really finished for me becasue I have many other products that I would like to bring to market in the future...so I will always be seeing what the Tank has to say about things : ) 2. My BDS product will be sent out for review to many of the top sites on the web to introduce the world outside of the Tank to these stands! Also to drive traffic to the disPLAYability web site and drive sales. 3. I am applying as a vendor to a few distributors and "hopefully" my product will be picked up by them so they can be available at retail as well as on-line. Samples will also be sent to these distributors for review of course. 4. I have many good contacts in the retailer market. I will offer the product directly to them as well. They will be able to pre-order the items as they are produced... There may be an opportunity for an "exclusive" deal, but that is all I can say on that at this point : ) That's it really, a minor investment really (Thousands rather than tens of thousands of more to start) and a simple plan that takes a bit of time and energy but most importantly a solid useable product at a solid price that will move at market. I think I have that, so it's all time and energy now...I got great feedback yesterday and I feel really good about this : ) Quote:
What did Steven Sansweet say? If you dont mind my asking. I had the good fortune of meeting the art director for ART ASYLUM, mr Manny DeJesus, 6 hours with him gave me a wealth of information on the industry and really how to approach making and selling a product. Case in point, the SOUTH BEND ELECTRONIC ENTERPRISE, to me this is one of the most amazing toys that came out. It was a modular ship that could be reconfigured in a number of different ways. My idea had been to duplicate this idea with the classic NCC-1701, hence, the Franz Joseph drawings in the STARFLEET TECHNICAL MANUAL could finally be done as well as other configurations. The SBEnt was based on the 1st movie Enterprise. I have about 6 of these and there is no sagging of the nacelles and they are just as solid now as they were 30 years ago. Manny peppered me with questions and frankly, I wasnt sure if he just hated the idea or really liked the idea and was trying to find pros and cons. Since ART ASYLUM was going for "hyperrealistic" toys, the whole fun factor was just in one ship at a time. My idea would have allowed for simple accessories to come out to change/accessorize the the ship. I had Adam Wong make a prototype and its simply amazing with just a paint job he did. Sadly, Ill doubt it ever comes to pass, but for me, I know its a great concept and should it ever see the shelves, Im sure fans and kids alike would enjoy it.
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The idea for the ship is great, I wanted to something similar at one point, but is was placed on the back burner. It has been done before probably best, in the Micronauts toy line, which was my inspiration for my design.
I like the TOS idea to, just wonder what kind of limitations you would have on the design? Quote:
What did Steven Sansweet say? If you dont mind my asking. I had the good fortune of meeting the art director for ART ASYLUM, mr Manny DeJesus, 6 hours with him gave me a wealth of information on the industry and really how to approach making and selling a product. Case in point, the SOUTH BEND ELECTRONIC ENTERPRISE, to me this is one of the most amazing toys that came out. It was a modular ship that could be reconfigured in a number of different ways. My idea had been to duplicate this idea with the classic NCC-1701, hence, the Franz Joseph drawings in the STARFLEET TECHNICAL MANUAL could finally be done as well as other configurations. The SBEnt was based on the 1st movie Enterprise. I have about 6 of these and there is no sagging of the nacelles and they are just as solid now as they were 30 years ago. Manny peppered me with questions and frankly, I wasnt sure if he just hated the idea or really liked the idea and was trying to find pros and cons. Since ART ASYLUM was going for "hyperrealistic" toys, the whole fun factor was just in one ship at a time. My idea would have allowed for simple accessories to come out to change/accessorize the the ship. I had Adam Wong make a prototype and its simply amazing with just a paint job he did. Sadly, Ill doubt it ever comes to pass, but for me, I know its a great concept and should it ever see the shelves, Im sure fans and kids alike would enjoy it.
South Bend Enterprise early protypes TOS Creator Prototype Final product TOS STARSHIP CREATOR pictures from friends & fun photos on webshots
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