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09-20-2022, 12:05 AM | #21 |
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I find it odd that folks have such strong feelings for a company or a design team like Emily and the gang. I?m agnostic. Happy fans will buy more product but at the end of the day Hasbro is a money making company and Emily and the team get their pay checks from that company. If it comes down to a decision to do something that will benefit the fans or do what is best for the company then they will support Hasbro. These HasLabs absolutely are a cash grab as is every product sold. The only decision folks have is whether they think the product is worth the money they have earned. |
09-20-2022, 04:53 AM | #22 |
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I still think corporations should be required BY LAW to disclose how much each individual product cost to produce. I want to know exactly how much of a percentage increase over cost I'm paying for this stuff.
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09-20-2022, 05:56 AM | #23 |
Fartbutt McGillicuddy
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I absolutely buy vehicles at retail when they're available and if i want them.
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09-20-2022, 09:19 AM | #24 |
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There's a huge difference between taking a reasonable profit margin for reasonably-made products. 'Stealing' a promotional method from smaller independent competitors to generate income a billion-dollar corporation absolutely in no way, shape, or form *n*e*e*d*s* that money in order to begin production as they've done for 60+ years.
It's absolutely ludicrous to argue that Hasbro would kill a HasLab project because it 'ran out of money' due to any one or more of the reasons an actually-starting up company could fail due to lack of funds. Is the digi-sculptor off on a heroin binge and holding your files hostage? BossFight is completely *fucked* if they can't raise money to hire a new digi-sculptor but Hasbro simply sends a lawsuit from corporate lawyer #B67 for breach of employment contract and hires another digi-sculptor independent contractor before the first cup of coffee's cooled, and they make the books balance at the end by running off another hundred product. Did your materials provider give you bad steel so your entire production run comes out as crap, the molds can't be reused, and the factory owner just shrugs his shoulders at you about your lost cash? Hell Screamerz apparently just rolls over and watches their dream die while people on the internet call them scammers while mid-level Hasbro VP #337 just contracts with a new factory in Vietnam and the CEO rails another line of coke off a Hollywood starlet's ass while negotiating his residuals off Transformers 17. This HasLab fund-raising nonsense is a 1,000% scam where they're simply wanting more money upfront so it can be invested earlier for more payoff in the long run. Any other explanation is simply horseshit. |
09-20-2022, 10:12 AM | #25 |
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I get the distaste for the HasLab model, but this couldn't be more wrong. Hasbro has never funded ANY toyline with its own money without some sort of guarantee first. EVER. It's important to remember that (generally speaking) Hasbro doesn't sell toys to us, the consumers - they sell to big box retail. They never went ahead with any new product without a commitment from retail to buy and carry said product first. HasLab simply shifts that commitment to us directly. You're obviously entitled to your opinion, but it is factually incorrect to say HasLab is a scam. It's simply a DTC adapttion of the business model they've always employed.
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09-20-2022, 11:27 AM | #26 |
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You mean the DTC model where they self-funded producing figures they'd self-funded the design of in-house before offering them for sale online to the internal customer that bought the stock once produced and charged customers upon delivery? That model?
HasLab is a fucking SCAM. |
09-20-2022, 11:49 AM | #27 |
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But each item becomes less of what Haslab originally was pitched as aka DREAM ITEMS and more "We just want to charge you out the ass for this stuff would could clearly have released in a store for $200". Sentinel, Galactus? Owning the Toy Biz ones that were BAFs, why were these things so much money? I saw the box in person at a toy show. These things could have fit on a shelf in target and sold for $150-$200. And don't give me "stores don't want to sell expensive toys like that" when Target has NECA TMNT sets for $150+ in their stores. The big joke was the Razorcrest. There is ZERO way that thing wouldn't have sold in a store for $200 or even $300. TRU back in the day always had $200+ Star Wars vehicles. Hell, they had the FLAGG! And it wasn't a dream item - it was a "This makes sense" item because Mando was hot and anything Mando sold. Even the HISS. Sure it was great but they could have cut out the extra storage inside and the lights and figures, and sold that thing for $150-$200. Won't even talk about the Rancor because we all know that had to be a troll. $350 for that piece of trash that wasn't much bigger than the ones we used to get in TRU, AND they couldn't even include the figures that would naturally go with it? I can't believe Patrick was serious about that disaster. |
09-20-2022, 11:51 AM | #28 |
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Well, they're probably considering them $31.99-$35.99 Marvel Legends ala Toad so maybe let's say an extra $127 for the figures?
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09-20-2022, 11:52 AM | #29 |
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Well, the recently deceased Hasbro CEO said last year that Hasbro has to maintain a 15% profit margin, so at least factor in 15% I suppose?
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09-20-2022, 11:52 AM | #30 |
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just throwing this out there, hasbro tried the dtc thing for gijoe 15 years ago or so and it didnt work out.
and it didnt ask for anyone's input on what they want. this is not in defense of dtc or haslab. because both ideas were/are fucking dumb. |
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