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06-14-2022, 03:10 PM | #101 |
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Pretty much everything, but to break it down:
First, disregarding the Disney Premium, you'd still be looking at $350 or so anyway. But just because they have the molds, doesn't mean the actual PRODUCTION is any cheaper. Keep in mind that $160 Millennium Falcon was $250 when it was produced in 2012, before Disney and most modern global issues occurred. That's an almost 40% increase in just FOUR years. Add another EIGHT to that! 1. The biggest issue (when this was made) was labor costs. Around a decade ago, the Chinese discovered the joys of "the middle class" and it caused a significant rise in labor costs. In 2012, Hasbro created new molds for its mid sized vehicles for Star Wars (like the evergreen Jedi Starfighter) because it was more cost effective than using the existing molds due the reduced labor and parts used in manufacturing. AFAIK, the BMF molds still reside in China because it would be cost prohibitive to move them to another country, and equally cost prohibitive to make NEW molds for that sort of release (more on that later). Around 2012 was when Hasbro became more proactive in sourcing out their lines, but most licensed stuff is still made in China who have the experience and logistics to handle pretty much any situation. That and I'm sure the licensor (in this case, Disney) have some claim to the molds (which is how Mattel was able to use Kenner molds in 2002 when they snagged the Batman license from Hasbro). The more complex the item is, the more people are involved in making it, which means it costs more in labor. The BMF had a complex deco, lots of pieces and 2 super articulated figures and accessories that all had to assembled and painted in a big ass box. There's a reason stuff of this complexity isn't produced for mass retail anymore. 2. Limited Production. This was a Disney Parks item that got sold through Target as part of a shared item deal, which was a big thing during the pandemic. But by being an exclusive, it was produced in lower numbers than a mass retail item. Last I knew, Hasbro's "production limit" was around 15,000 units. Lower production doesn't improve pricing. That's why the old Joe Club's figures were so expensive, they were typically produced in sub-10K numbers. The last BMF run wasn't produced anywhere near the volume of it was a decade ago. The lower a production run, typically the price is increased to compensate. 3. Shipping. The BMF was a big item, and that reflects in shipping. 4. Materials cost. They haven't been static and only gone up. It just cost "more" to buy the plastic to make this crap. Again, that's why you've seen Hasbro do things like reduce the complexity of Transformers since 2010, or in 2012, they made new mid-sized vehicles for Star Wars of the same stuff they had molds for because the lowered production costs justified the creation of new molds. You don't have to like it, you don't have to buy the product if you feel you aren't getting a fair value. But a LOT of the price increases are NOT happening just for the sake of it (at least not in the toy sector). Renting a shipping container used to cost around $200. Now it costs over 2,000! In about a year's time! Those costs have to be absorbed somewhere. In terms of Mattel, they are apparently managing their costs to keep this stuff affordable. But then again, you have their die cast ships running $6-7 and the new listings I posted show a buck increase across the board so it's not like they aren't passing along increasing costs either. On topic: there are some sweet items in this line. I?m glad people are customizing them to work with Joes and SW. |
06-14-2022, 03:20 PM | #102 |
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06-18-2022, 10:32 AM | #103 |
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Meijer has buy one get on 40% off on Lightyear toys. The XL-15 space ship is $44.99 regular price, if anyone's looking to stock up on them at a discount.
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06-18-2022, 05:55 PM | #104 |
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Saw lightyear today, i really liked it. Big reveal was pretty awesome.
The armadillo needs to come to target so i can use this 5 dollar off coupon. |
06-20-2022, 12:36 AM | #105 |
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06-20-2022, 07:48 AM | #106 |
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Great pic if it was 1980-1990.
Kids want in game purchase skins more than in hand toys nowadays.
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06-20-2022, 09:29 AM | #107 |
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Sometimes I wonder if there is something wrong with me. Whats the fun of having something digital? There are people paying a lot of money just to have a library of 3d models. And I'm not saying with the purpose of 3d printing, simply to have them in a digital room.
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06-20-2022, 09:32 AM | #108 |
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Notice those kids are a bit younger than the bowl-haircutted 9-11 year olds that were featured in the 80s ads. We have a real dicked-up situation happening where kids are leaving toys behind at an increasingly (decreasingly?) earlier age, which makes people say they're "growing up" faster, but they're really not. Matter of fact, one glance around you reveals a bunch of supposed adults ranging from 20-80 years of age all acting like 12 year olds. The sad truth is, no one is actually "growing up" anymore when it comes to emotional IQ and critical thinking.
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06-20-2022, 10:11 AM | #109 |
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06-20-2022, 12:13 PM | #110 |
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I keep coming to this thread hoping to see more custom Jets.
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