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07-29-2012, 11:55 PM | #21 |
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07-30-2012, 07:22 AM | #22 |
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As others have said, there's a huge list of reasons why the toy industry (actually, not so much the toy industry as a whole as the action figure segment specifically) has suffered.
Action figures get more focus from us because obviously they're part of what brings us here in the first place, and are far more focused on by the collector market. But you have to remember: Back in the 80's TV shows like Transformers, G.I. Joe, and Masters of the Universe had a captive audience. There wasn't remotely the variety of channels and programming for kids to choose from (Sure, you might get a different selection of syndicated 'toons depending on where you were at, but "the mainstays" on weekday afternoons and Saturday Mornings were pretty much watched by ALL Kids). That degree of marketing simply doesn't exist anymore, and the model has shifted (though not entirely) from "toon-based" to "movie-based" (starting with Star Wars: Episode I). Also, as someone else noted: Kids today don't like the same stuff we do. It's perfectly possible to go into a store and find "decent" (for varying definitions of "decent") toys for things like Ben 10, whatever Pokemon knockoff is hot right now, etc... Even Power Rangers continues trudging right along. In other words the stuff that's genuinely popular with kids continues to be successful...but older brands heavily frequented by adult collectors...not as much. |
07-30-2012, 08:41 AM | #23 |
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But if you listen to what the economists are predicting, by next year or the year after the dollar will collapse & none of this will matter. They say it's inevitable. |
07-30-2012, 09:10 AM | #24 |
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UI think it's because we're all grown up now. When we were kids we didn't have every toy we wanted so when we went into a store that had toys chances were they had one we wanted. Now that we're all grown up, we have the money to buy all the toys we could ever want so it's tough to walk into a store and just stumble upon one we don't already have.
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07-30-2012, 09:29 AM | #25 |
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Unfortunately we're all being forced into this whether we like it or not. It used to be a choice, but now if you want a figure online is the only option.
But if you listen to what the economists are predicting, by next year or the year after the dollar will collapse & none of this will matter. They say it's inevitable.
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07-30-2012, 09:31 AM | #26 |
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Call me crazy but I don't think the toy companys or the owners of the the brand (like Lucas Film with star wars) don't understand how to market thier brands in the world today. What worked 10 or 20 years ago or even just 5 years ago doesn't work today. They release a movie and expect that movie to still be driving toy sales a year or more afterwards. It doesn't work with out more media tie-in's. As well that toys haven't really evolved with the interests of kids today. An a decent examplemight be the old Captain Power line, it was way ahead of it's time, crude by todays standard but how many other toys could "interact" with the tv ? I think if toys in general are to really stay around they're going to have to expand being more closely tied into electronic devices. Iphones, playstation/xbox/wii, computers and the like. Kids are crazy for these things now more so than those of us from the 70s and 80s ever were for nintendos and segas. How many kids and adults too do you know that can't live with out thier cell phone or computer ? This generation today has been raised with electronics more or less since they were born. Toys need to reflect that if they're going to be more than throw backs or collectables for adults that never quite out grew the awesomeness that was the 1980's.
And one other thing I've noticed is that it seems like most toy lines don't have a story, or atleast not much of one. Kids (adults too) are more likely to get into a toy line if it has a good story that pulls them into that universe and keeps expanding on it. Take the comic packs, those were a great idea (star wars and gijoe) but kind of poorly executed. Some bad figure choices, bland repaints and for the most part just reissues of old comics. If they all had new stories that tied into each one and bridged all the comic packs together sales could of been better I think instead of the very random and out of place stories we got from both lines. Althougth the Resolute comic packs with new comics were great, if only they had done more with that. They're going to have to change and adapt. And hopefully the dollar doesn't go kaput and we're not a third world country this time next year. |
07-30-2012, 09:42 AM | #27 |
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After the accident I cant walk at all.
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07-30-2012, 10:11 AM | #28 |
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Also, you can always find ANY Lego or Mega-Bloks set you want because I see them there in abundance.
My problem is I DON'T COLLECT THAT CRAP. The stuff I want (mostly 1/18th scale with a dip into 1/12) is never readily available. The same peg warmers warm for months. It sucks! I've pretty much stopped collecting GI Joe when Retaliation toys hit the shelves. It's kind of refreshing not having to worry about it. There are some vintage carded Star Wars figures I'd like to get, but since all I ever see are TPM figures clogging all the pegs at Target, Walmart, and TRU, I pretty much stopped hunting for them too. Maybe someday I'll get lucky and see the last handfull of Star Wars figures I want, but I'm not going to worry about it. I've got enough toys to enjoy for a long time to come. I'll keep my eye out for certain things here and there, but for the most part I've shifted my collecting goals now that Hasbro isn't really offering things that I want anymore. |
07-30-2012, 10:20 AM | #29 |
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As others have said, there's a huge list of reasons why the toy industry (actually, not so much the toy industry as a whole as the action figure segment specifically) has suffered.
Action figures get more focus from us because obviously they're part of what brings us here in the first place, and are far more focused on by the collector market. But you have to remember: Back in the 80's TV shows like Transformers, G.I. Joe, and Masters of the Universe had a captive audience. There wasn't remotely the variety of channels and programming for kids to choose from (Sure, you might get a different selection of syndicated 'toons depending on where you were at, but "the mainstays" on weekday afternoons and Saturday Mornings were pretty much watched by ALL Kids). That degree of marketing simply doesn't exist anymore, and the model has shifted (though not entirely) from "toon-based" to "movie-based" (starting with Star Wars: Episode I). Also, as someone else noted: Kids today don't like the same stuff we do. It's perfectly possible to go into a store and find "decent" (for varying definitions of "decent") toys for things like Ben 10, whatever Pokemon knockoff is hot right now, etc... Even Power Rangers continues trudging right along. In other words the stuff that's genuinely popular with kids continues to be successful...but older brands heavily frequented by adult collectors...not as much. If you're an adult collector dead set on finding a toy at retail, pick a line less targeted toward adults and hit up a toy store around the time the line starts getting sighted. Last time I did this with the new Turtles figures I had no problem finding everything I wanted first time out. Good luck, and may the force be with you. |
07-31-2012, 06:44 PM | #30 |
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Selling them or trading them off isn't a sure thing. Some places like Amazon offer individual figures and for a fair price at $12.99. But that's only a small window of opportunity and gone in minutes.
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