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05-25-2011, 08:29 AM | #11 |
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I felt that way back in 2006/2007. I thought it was awesome when the Transformers movie took the franchise into the mainstream. But now they're just getting tiresome. Seeing the same stuff constantly is getting on my nerves. I mean for Christ's sake, I was at Walmart last night looking at Weequay & Nikto on Return Of The Jedi cards. I was having flashbacks to Kay-Bee in 1983. I almost started looking for Hordak & Grizzlor. |
05-25-2011, 08:34 AM | #12 |
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05-25-2011, 08:37 AM | #13 |
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05-25-2011, 08:37 AM | #14 |
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Ohhh yes!
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05-25-2011, 08:52 AM | #15 |
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No. From now until the Sun burns out, there will never be anything new ever again.
More seriously, there's a fair amount of new stuff that comes out every year...just not from Hasbro, and it tends to be the stuff that gets dismissed by adult collectors as (gasp) "kids' stuff" (IE anything based on cartoons that aren't G.I. Joe, Transformers, or Clone Wars). A lot of it just comes and goes completely under our radar. Hasbro has its' niche, and milks it for all its' worth. They'd be idiots not to. "New" properties are incredibly difficult (and expensive) to get off the ground, with virtually no guarantee of success or sales behind them, especially in the action figure market. Really the late 90's were the last gasp of the action figure industry before video games started pushing them out the door. I do find it a little amusing that someone is complaining about Hasbo milking G.I. Joe on a G.I. Joe collector's forum. If you weren't at least some small part of the very "problem" you present, you wouldn't be here in the first place. If it bothers you that much then well...see ya. Not like anyone (much less Hasbro) is forcing you to buy any of this stuff. Money (or lack thereof) talks a hell of a lot louder to Hasbro and retailers than any amount of complaining on a message board. If enough people stop buying what's offered, Hasbro and the retailers will be forced to change their models...whether that becomes something better, however, is highly uncertain. The bottom line is that there isn't much incentive for Hasbro to make the attempt at something altogether "new" when the pattern is generally that most new products in their market fail within the first year. When it comes to G.I. Joe, the collectors have made it painfully clear that they want rehashes or "updates" of the old stuff over entirely new stuff (though there is certainly a segment of the fandom that constantly cries out for altogether new stuff and some that even suggest dropping the ARAH trappings and characters entirely...which just goes to further illustrate how Hasbro can never please everybody). Last edited by Jmacq1; 05-25-2011 at 08:55 AM.. |
05-25-2011, 08:54 AM | #16 |
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which is why satanists and athiests might have a point lol. in all seriousness though lack of NEW....not butchered og charcaters but really NEW and appealing characters are what caused me to just loose intrest and fizzle on joes lately.
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05-25-2011, 08:57 AM | #17 |
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If you expand your horizons past Hasbro, you'll see that there are new things out there. Bakugan, and Beyblade, King Zhu, Toy Story, Cars, Ben 10 and others are new toy lines that don't originate in the 80s. Granted, they are not what you or I are looking for, but the blanket statement that nothing new is coming out and that it's getting stale out there isn't exactly true.
I for one would love to see new toy lines that don't come and go with the popularity or lack of, with a movie. But you're right there doesn't seem to be much appealing in the lines of anything new, unless it did originate in the 80s. |
05-25-2011, 09:02 AM | #18 |
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I wonder how many people said that in '82 when the name G.I. Joe showed up on the shelves again. We've reinvented Marvel Heroes and DC, but the staples are over 60 years old too. There are new toy lines out there, but few have 'legs' for the long haul...just like back in the good old days!
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Ok, so right now there's nothing new out there. All they're doing is milking the living shit out of Star Wars, GI Joe, Transformers, super heroes, & MOTU for every penny they can squeeze out of them. Soon Thundercats will be added to the list. Nothing but old crap from 30+ years ago. (I'm personally sick & tired of it) They don't even try to create anything new anymore. All they do now is milk the 80's.
How many more years of wasting money on the same old crap do you have in you? Is Hasbro ever going to attempt to make something new? I personally have had enough. I've reached my limit. I'm sick to death of GI Joe, Transformers & Star Wars. I was just looking at the Star Wars sites & the Y-Wing & B-Wing are being released again in the same old crummy 70's style packaging. Man, I did that already! I still remember buying my Y-Wing from Bradlees on The Dock in Stratford CT. And I already bought my Skystriker, I already went though that part of my life. I remember, Skystriker was from Bradlees on Boston Ave. Bridgeport CT. I don't wanna keep repeating my history over & over again. I already bought those toys 30+ years ago. Why isn't there a ton of totally new stuff in the stores now in 2011? If you told me back in 1986 that 30 years in the future I would be buying the same shit over & over again & there would be nothing new, I would have told you that you were crazy. But look how it is. We're buying the same old shit & there is nothing new! Right now everybody is going crazy trying to find the Viper, Cobra Commander, Blowtorch, Rock Viper etc. The same crap over & over & over & over. Characters that we bought already dozens of times. And look at the new Transformers line, the same crap rehashed over & over again since 2007. 5 years straight of friggin Camaro Bumblebee & chicken/monkey/bug Starscream. Back in the 80's there was a new cartoon & new toy line every couple weeks. Seems like every time I went to the store there was a new toy line that I never heard of before. What the hell happened? Why did they just stop creating new things? Pretty soon everybody is going to get burned out on Star Wars, GI Joe & Transformers. Just look what happened to Star Trek, they rammed that franchise into the ground until nobody cared anymore. What are they gonna do then? Turn to M.A.S.K. instead of creating something new? |
05-25-2011, 09:23 AM | #19 |
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Mattel did the Battle Force 5 stuff a couple of years ago, that was neat in concept. In execution, they were boring & fell short of thier potential.
IMHO, the problem today is that there isnt the calibre of designers & engineers as back in the day, or the corporate economics/politics of today render today's toy creators impotent. The lack of creativity or restricted creativity, whichever the case may be, has created toy concepts that kids today won't care to remember as part of their childhood. |
05-25-2011, 09:24 AM | #20 |
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I for one love the Cars toyline it hit when the movie did and has stayed strong since. Wish i had started picking thoes up for my kid when they came out. Tha being said Hotwheels has been doing the sam thing for like a thousnd years now and people are still buying thoes. lol
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