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12-09-2023, 02:02 PM | #1 |
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Hello,
First, if this question/thread should go in a different forum, I apologize. I'll be happy to move it if necessary. I'm looking for help answering an old question. This is a panel from G.I.Joe: A Real American Hero #25 "Zartan". This is the first appearance of the Dreadnoks, but before any of them were given individual names. Clearly the artist, Frank Springer, was just sketching based on concepts, but in this panel toward the end of the issue there are clearly more than three 'Noks, and none of them look like Buzzer on this page (although he is clear on another page). My question is, have any fans ever tried to identify the Dreadnoks on this page or make up/retcon who else could be there from Dreadnoks added later on? |
12-09-2023, 03:08 PM | #2 |
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They're just filler... which brings to mind an interesting concept... Dreadnok troop-builders.
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12-09-2023, 03:18 PM | #3 |
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I'll go with Zanzibar and Gnawgahyde
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12-09-2023, 03:19 PM | #4 |
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Early Dreadheads
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12-10-2023, 10:17 AM | #5 |
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12-10-2023, 10:41 AM | #6 |
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I think these were just stand-ins. Like, they envisioned the Dreadnoks being this motorcycle gang, led by Zartan, but when this comic was released, Zartan was the only one Hasbro had designed, at that point. Buzzer, Ripper, and Torch showed up a few issues later (#30, I think), so they were probably still in the design phase when Hama wrote #25.
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12-10-2023, 01:09 PM | #7 |
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Those sorry blokes didn't last to the next issue. Dead-noks, they are!
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12-10-2023, 01:37 PM | #8 |
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The filecards for Zartan, Zarana, and Zandar don't mention any affiliation with the Dreadnoks... interesting.
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12-10-2023, 02:20 PM | #9 |
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Quote:
https://www.yojoe.com/images/resize/...ard/buzzer.jpg https://www.yojoe.com/images/resize/...e/72/80271.jpg
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12-10-2023, 03:36 PM | #10 |
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Filler and stand-in doesn't cut it if they make "Shooter" a real character.
My takes: 1. Thrasher with a different hairstyle. Remember in issue 51, Buzzer says to Thrasher "I thought you ran back into the swamps where Zartan found you?" He chose not to follow Zartan north with the other 3. And the other is Monkeywrench, likewise different look...but IIRC, Buzzer said he hadn't seen him since Australia. So then, one is Dreadnok Crusher, who left to become Zangief. 2. They are just holograms! |
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