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View Poll Results: Should the next publisher continue the Hamaverse? | |||
Yes | 38 | 44.71% | |
No | 47 | 55.29% | |
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08-16-2022, 02:50 PM | #131 |
Browncoat
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I would love to see a return to Rod Whigham / Ron Wagner look. The two best artists the book has ever had. Took so many outlandish things and grounded them in realism and simplicity.
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08-16-2022, 02:59 PM | #132 |
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08-16-2022, 03:09 PM | #133 |
Browncoat
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08-16-2022, 07:36 PM | #134 |
Iron Grenadier
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Based on this thread, I think there are two groups of readers--those who want Hama and those who want someone besides Hama. They overlap some, but for the most part I think they're two different audiences and it would be prudent to go after both of them.
I think the Hama readers are the Hama readers, and at this point, nothing will stop them (us) from showing up. But I think it's up to the new publisher to generate excitement and buzz for the new title. If all that mattered was slapping the G.I. Joe name on the front of a book and then selling to some pre-set amount of readers, all the recent "tries" by IDW would have sold the same, and they haven't. They've got to figure out how to re-create the success of the start of the IDW run. At the time, IDW did that with four different titles, and the sleeper hit was the one by the then-least known writer. That line was popular enough, that although they cut one title (origins) they added an extra series (Snake Eyes) and a bunch of mini-series. Every "reimagining" IDW did since then hasn't been nearly as popular. I do know that the Transformers/GIJoe series was one of those things that people either loved or hated. I have no idea what it did sales wise. I honestly wouldn't be too terribly surprised if they tried to re-create the formula exactly and they just brought back Dixon and Costa. But I would like to see them change it up a bit, with somebody like Brian K Vaughn or Nick Spencer writing the book. And then let Hama keep producing the one thing only he can produce, and which some of us still want--G.I.Joe comics written by Larry Hama. I do think that when it comes to why the new IDW stuff "hits different," at least some of the problem is the art. I wonder if some of the big moments from the ARAH IDW run would have "hit" better if the art looked more like Rod Whigham or Frank Springer. I wonder if it at least would have felt more like the classic run to more people and less like some weird new thing. |
08-17-2022, 01:51 PM | #135 |
Iron Grenadier
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Agree 1000%. I'm a massive fan of the Bronze Age artists and would love nothing more than to see that style in the pages of G.I. Joe again. I'm such a huge fan of Dan Schoening's work on #278 and I think he would be perfect for #301 or whatever the next publisher comes up with.
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08-17-2022, 06:12 PM | #136 |
Counter Intelligence
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Fuck no. Let it die and let some new shit come to be. It will always exist, but let's move the fuck on to a fresh mythology.
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08-17-2022, 08:12 PM | #137 |
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In terms of the comment about Hama readers wanting Hama, I’d say it would be hard for anyone to be a more die hard Hama reader than myself, but Hama himself worked hard to change that. Now I say please, no more.
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08-17-2022, 08:38 PM | #138 |
Browncoat
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There is no doubt that Hama is our George Lucas. What we need now is our Dave Filoni and Jon Favreau. |
08-17-2022, 09:35 PM | #139 |
Iron Grenadier
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I am leaning that way also. I love Hama. At the same time, I'd love to see someone take that legacy and run with it. Do it respectfully, and keep the continuity (perhaps ignore the stupider stuff).
There is no doubt that Hama is our George Lucas. What we need now is our Dave Filoni and Jon Favreau. |
08-17-2022, 11:57 PM | #140 |
Washed Out
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I am leaning that way also. I love Hama. At the same time, I'd love to see someone take that legacy and run with it. Do it respectfully, and keep the continuity (perhaps ignore the stupider stuff).
There is no doubt that Hama is our George Lucas. What we need now is our Dave Filoni and Jon Favreau. I am absolutely LIVID I may never get to see what Lucas would have done with the sequels. I want to know HIS version, Whills, midichlorians, and all. I still want that story in any form I can get it. Comics, puppet show, read-along storybook with a cassette tape, back of breakfast cereal boxes, whatever. The fact I likely will never get it is a tragedy. So I probably know where I stand feeling similarly about Joe comics by Hama. I would love to keep seeing any comic Hama is willing to put out for as long as he wants to and the market and the publishers can sustain it. Everything else is just community season 4 to me. Gas leak stuff. Don't get me wrong. I get where you guys are coming from. I'm not saying I'm right and you're wrong. People don't like what they don't like and that isn't anything anybody else can say is wrong. I'm just saying I for one am still having fun, so I feel bummed so many people want it to die. But that's what reboots are, in the end. Reboots of a thing you love are when somebody decides what they really want is a different audience than you.
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