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07-09-2019, 09:53 PM | #1 |
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I recently reread the European Missions series. Even though it's non continuity with ARAH, it has a similar feel, and even fleshes out some characters like Sci Fi. There were only 15 issues, so I have been thinking of collecting the UK Action Force comic magazine where the European Missions comic stories were drawn from. Has anyone collected the Action Force comics, and if so, do you recommend them?
On a side note, it turns out that superstar comic writer Grant Morrison wrote a solo Storm Shadow story that appeared in European Missions #3. |
07-09-2019, 10:02 PM | #2 |
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I recently reread the European Missions series. Even though it's non continuity with ARAH, it has a similar feel, and even fleshes out some characters like Sci Fi. There were only 15 issues, so I have been thinking of collecting the UK Action Force comic magazine where the European Missions comic stories were drawn from. Has anyone collected the Action Force comics, and if so, do you recommend them?
On a side note, it turns out that superstar comic writer Grant Morrison wrote a solo Storm Shadow story that appeared in European Missions #3.
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07-09-2019, 10:35 PM | #3 |
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Thanks. I appreciate the input.
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07-10-2019, 12:33 PM | #4 |
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Some are very ingrained in the Action Force "universe". Especially the stories involving Trent and the running back-up feature with the Transformers. I think Trent dies in issue 2 or so...then pops up a few issues later. So the ordering of the issues is definitely different from the original "Action Force" source.
I think the biggest difference in tone is probably issue 12 (Super Trooper). Aside from using the Super Trooper concept, the callousness at how Flint brushes aside a soldier dying is striking. Especially when compared to how the death of a comrade is a huge thing in the "Hama-verse". A few single, self-contained, issues could be spun into the US continuity though, if you really wanna be obsessive (and I sometimes qualify as that). For instance, I like to think that European Missions #15 is a pre-cursor to the Trucial Abysmia war. I have all 15 issues recapped and scored, here: https://www.option38.com/category/gi...pean-missions/
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07-10-2019, 12:46 PM | #5 |
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It all started with "Battle Action Force". I have all those and love them. If you want to read them online then they're available at Bloodforthebaron.org. You'll be surprised that the first issues don't feature any Joes you know. However, they begin appearing about halfway through the series including Cobra. After that, "Action Force Weekly" picks up and the series concludes with "G.I
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07-10-2019, 02:53 PM | #6 |
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All of the above posts are good info. Since we only get so much Joe material put out currently, I have been looking for additional Joe books to read. I am going to definitely check out these suggestions.
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07-10-2019, 03:11 PM | #7 |
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It all started with "Battle Action Force". I have all those and love them. If you want to read them online then they're available at Bloodforthebaron.org. You'll be surprised that the first issues don't feature any Joes you know. However, they begin appearing about halfway through the series including Cobra. After that, "Action Force Weekly" picks up and the series concludes with "G.I
Joe: European Missions". Battle Action Force was a retitled version of Battle, a pre-existing British war comic, which added licensed tie-ins to Action Force which, lest we forget, was a separate UK toyline which reused some US moulds in 1983 and 1984. In 1985, Hasbro bought the names from Pallitoy, the UK company, and began importing Joe figures to the UK, selling them repacked in Action Force style packaging. The comics were forced to change to reflect this, doing their utmost to explain it with all the malarky of Baron Ironblood becoming Cobra Commander and Red Jackal becoming Destro. The line was then relaunched in 1987 with GI Joe style packaging and Marvel UK took over the comic license and Action Force weekly is a complete reboot of continuity*. AF monthly followed, mixing reprints of UK stories from early issues of weekly with new material. (hence Trent's 'resurrection') IIRC, you got 2 new stories with one reprint per title. Reprints of US Marvel GI Joe comics went into Transformers UK. AFAIK, the GI Joe European Missions series is just AFM with a new title on the front. *Despite what some, like Jamar Millar over at BFTB, might like to make out you really can't reconcile Destro's background in GI Joe, AF weekly or BAF. The GI Joe and Marvel AF ones kinda line up if you squint a bit. BAF Destro and the US Destro are irreconcilable, same with Cobra Commander, but he wasn't used so much in the UK stories as he wasn't re-released like Destro was in 1987. I tried to fit the BAF stories into the same continuity as MAF and US GI Joe, but I did it by ignoring some parts (Ironblood isn't CC for 1), retconing others (no Transformers) and replacing the US Cobras with explies and making the US characters the UK ones where possible. |
07-11-2019, 12:16 PM | #8 |
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Action Force was ok. At its best I'd say low-tier Special Missions class, or non-Hama Marvel class. My favorites were EM 4, 14 and 15. It was nice seeing some lesser characters get some more face time. They had some civilian-written silliness Hama would never do, like 5 guys in a pipeline all yelling at each other to be quiet, and Barbecue as the bomb guy because he's an "expert on fires", but I'd say they were better than most non-Hama efforts.
Same here. It's got a bunch of the same guys doing the same stuff.
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07-11-2019, 06:03 PM | #9 |
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One semi-cool original idea the (Battle) Action Force stories came up with is why Cobra always wore blue--- it was the color a person turns, after they've been bitten by a cobra's venom.
A couple years ago, I read the UK stories where the Red Shadows are transitioned into Cobra. Honestly, they were kind of clunky. You could take, say, Skeletor and his flunkies and whip up a story for how they're suddenly going to be known as "Cobra". But I give the UK writers credit for connecting things and trying to run with it. They could've just wiped the board clean and said Cobra was an entirely new thing.
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07-11-2019, 07:44 PM | #10 |
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One semi-cool original idea the (Battle) Action Force stories came up with is why Cobra always wore blue--- it was the color a person turns, after they've been bitten by a cobra's venom.
A couple years ago, I read the UK stories where the Red Shadows are transitioned into Cobra. Honestly, they were kind of clunky. You could take, say, Skeletor and his flunkies and whip up a story for how they're suddenly going to be known as "Cobra". But I give the UK writers credit for connecting things and trying to run with it. They could've just wiped the board clean and said Cobra was an entirely new thing. born. I think it will be fun. |
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