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11-12-2018, 01:03 AM | #2131 |
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Issue #116 is live to discuss. Yo Joe!
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11-12-2018, 01:12 AM | #2132 |
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Hey Tankers! Skinny has always been a friend to this thread. He's trying to get a GI Joe short film funded based on Snake-Eyes, Stalker and Storm Shadow's LRRP experiences in Nam from the comics. Sounds cool and ambitious. His Kickstarter ends this Friday at 6am Eastern. Check it out. Maybe you want to help him get this thing made. Yo Joe!
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11-12-2018, 02:10 AM | #2133 |
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"Destro's back, Destro's back and he's under attack!" (If this issue had been advertised on tv)
Days of Future's Past inspired cover. Pretty good, but maybe depending on if you like Destro emoting in a steel mask. And yay, Whigham is back, alas for just this arc. Wow, is that freighter a lot different than what we last saw. The explanation is obvious, the search team in issue 114 was in the room where they stored the old Halloween decorations. Funny how after a year trapped inside, the freighter victims never changed clothes and never grew breads. Funny how Firefly's body is clearly visible. This doesn't jive with what we learn later. The real explanation is that while tallying the corpses, the search team drug "Firefly's" body out from where it was stored. An Action Pack appears on a Techno-Viper's back. That's the only comic action pack appearance. (The gyro-copter packs were technically vehicle packs) Cobra Commander appears in his odd 1991 costume for this story arc only. And its helmet is off model from the actual toy. CC has all that loot, but opens up a helicopter door in flight and lets stock options and futures get sucked out. All because he's mad that his convoluted revenge plot failed to kill two magic ninjas. He also punches out a monitor...but remember, Hama never saw the cartoon. Why does he want to kill Destro? No, seriously. Destro is retired, and last time they were together they were on decent terms. "Put that uppity foreigner in his place!" he says to the European Tomax and Xamot. Old MacHeath, I bet he's really Flint in disguise, there to keep watch on Lady Jaye...oh, right... Big Ben is introduced with the most stereotypical British accent ever. Low Light grew a beard and has become more useless. "Better call in someone who can take names, Flint." That should be all three of you twits. The night sniper, the airborne ranger, the SAS commando! NO. YOU GUYS AREN'T NINJAS! YOU ARE NOTHING. Zartan and Billy ask Destro for help, because I guess going to the Joes would land Zartan in a federal prison. This should be the last appearance of the Iron Grenadiers, but they aren't seen, just Nullifiers and Scots guards. Metal-Head is Destro's spy, giving him one final appearance where Destro dismisses everything true Metal-Head tells him. I hope Metal-Head survived and found a new job. Hawk shows up in a subdued version of his 1991 uniform that he'll never wear after this story arc. BUT NEW SNAKE EYES! Also, LJ, Hawk's freakin' secretary is there. The UK is just as bad as letting Cobra aircraft violate their airspace. A few missile intercepts and adios, CC and twins. Remounting the guns on the "bull dozer" Paralyzers happens too fast for any real life operation. They'd be futzing about for like an hour. Destro's Razorbacks would've been on them and Cobra Commander would be like "Why didn't I radio ahead for the armor to be ready when i showed up?" Even Fred's operation was better planned that this crap. Baroness feeds Destro's ego "You knew something was up all along and were just pretending..." I hate this couple. Yo, Destro if wrist rockets so great, why don't your guards have them? CC's attack would be over in 10 minutes. And just where is Destro's AGP air cover? With the two Hurricanes down, they should be wiping out Cobra. Old MacHeath inside big glass bubble can hear what Destro is saying on the castle walls two stories above in the middle of a battle because comic book. It's the BRAINWAVE SCANNER again. Get used to it, readers. It'll be around constantly for the next 39 issues. Destro and Baroness jump off a two story or higher castle wall on to a moving Razorback and are uninjured. "BLOW IT!! NOW!" Oh, Commander, I bet you say that to all the Techno Vipers! Rubber mask removal reveals that MacHeath was just Chuckles doing a racist caricature. Destro be like "You're fired!" "But I saved your lives!" "You lied to me and also my castle just got blowed up, so I don't need a gamekeeper." Hawk, maybe alert the British military that there's a terrorist army on their soil...no? "Ace in the hole!" Marvel comics drinking game...take a drink for poker references. Why didn't Destro's wrist rockets take out the Paralyzers? They did. He destroyed a dozen but Cobra had a lot. Using a HEAT Viper launcher to attack a copter, if only Cobra had FLAK-Vipers, everyone on the Tomahawk would be dead. Baroness gets shot, but not fatally. Bummer. "Arashikage death touch?" "Nah, Vulcan neck pinch." "We have the means of inflicting pain and suffering on him through a beloved proxy." That's a good villain line, makes up for CC's hysteria earlier. Dossier is Roadblock, because he has to appear in every issue. Letters: "Anything can happen between panels!" Way to deflect 99% of no prizes! A lot happens in this issue but it mostly works. A modern comic would've drug this out over 2 or 3 issues. I'm disappointed Destro's army is gone in what amounts to a massacre, but Destro will never mourn them. Or hire anyone new (who'd work for him after this?) They make a deal about bringing Snake-Eyes in but he doesn't do anything in this issue. It's a pretty good issue, and this might be the last good story arc in the vintage run, besides the Eco Warriors and Star Brigade stories, I mean. LOL. Last edited by Sean_C; 11-12-2018 at 02:12 AM.. |
11-12-2018, 03:50 PM | #2134 |
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According to the method I introduced here earlier, this is the beginning of season 10 of G.I.Joe. This is a double-season that lasts from 116 to 134 and encompasses the 91-92 toyline (the ones that appear, that is). It's also the last good Joe season. I know a lot of fans think the comic is pretty much done after Trucial Abysmia, but this season is still solid. I think, we'll see, there are admittedly some slightly lame aspects involved.
This change of seasons is more conspicuous than some of the other ones. Besides the usual change of creative teams, we also get a bunch of new toy versions for major characters. G.I.Joe is now led by Matt Trakker, years before it actually happened! Unfortunately most of the new toys suck, but fortunately the lame ones don't stick around. Coincidence? The 1991 toyline did have a bunch of good designs, but we won't be seeing many of the good ones. 1991 also signals a change in the toyline, with the majority of new toys being new versions of old characters. At this point this was a good change, as the rosters were getting really overstacked. Not sure whose idea this change was, but I'm pretty sure a lot of the 1991 toys weren't supposed to be existing characters during the design phase. The cat in this issue clearly isn't Low-Light. Anyway, onto the actual issue. The cover is a classic. I remember seeing this a bunch of times, either in ads or at the store, before I bought it. It's nice to see D&B return, but unfortunately this storyline completes their face turn and pretty much signals the end of them as badass characters. Yes, it's never explained why CC has suddenly developed a huge beef towards Destro. The downside of Hama's writing style on display again. While a good story, the issue is also pretty detrimental to the mythos. After the events depicted, it seems unlikely CC and Destro could ever reconcile in any way. Yet they're pretty buddy buddy with each other at times during the IDW run. Oh well, "anything can happen between panels". Nice to see Whigham back. Art's not quite on par with his first run, but looks good. Could've done with more of him. Postbox legend Thomas Wheeler says any G.I.Joe issue that has the entire Joe ninja team in it has to be a winner. Comic will really test this theory during the next couple of years.
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11-12-2018, 03:59 PM | #2135 |
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Big Ben is introduced with the most stereotypical British accent ever. Low Light grew a beard and has become more useless.
"Better call in someone who can take names, Flint." That should be all three of you twits. The night sniper, the airborne ranger, the SAS commando! NO. YOU GUYS AREN'T NINJAS! YOU ARE NOTHING. Quote:
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Remounting the guns on the "bull dozer" Paralyzers happens too fast for any real life operation. They'd be futzing about for like an hour. Destro's Razorbacks would've been on them and Cobra Commander would be like "Why didn't I radio ahead for the armor to be ready when i showed up?" Even Fred's operation was better planned that this crap.
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CC really knows how to rock that rocket launcher. A nod to the 1991 toys. Who else wanted CC to use his ballista and paper airplane to take out the Tomahawk?
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11-12-2018, 04:33 PM | #2136 |
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1991 also signals a change in the toyline, with the majority of new toys being new versions of old characters. At this point this was a good change, as the rosters were getting really overstacked. Not sure whose idea this change was, but I'm pretty sure a lot of the 1991 toys weren't supposed to be existing characters during the design phase.
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. While a good story, the issue is also pretty detrimental to the mythos. After the events depicted, it seems unlikely CC and Destro could ever reconcile in any way. Yet they're pretty buddy buddy with each other at times during the IDW run. Oh well, "anything can happen between panels".
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CC really knows how to rock that rocket launcher. A nod to the 1991 toys. Who else wanted CC to use his ballista and paper airplane to take out the Tomahawk?
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11-13-2018, 12:40 AM | #2137 |
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I feel like the whole brainwashed storyline from 146 or so was just completely forgotten:/
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11-13-2018, 05:12 AM | #2138 |
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Devils Due really followed up on the brainwashed storyline in their re-introductions to each of the characters from 146. The Hama IDW series sort of talked about it. It wasn't forgotten, just quickly reversed IIRC.
The Destro: Search and Destroy arc is one of my least favorites from the run. The costumes and art are bad, the story is pretty bad... does this end up finishing in the transforming castle? "I built a whole castle for Cobra but made sure it could turn into a replica of my own castle back home, by golly." It doesn't look anything like his own castle, and good observations about the lack of Iron Grenadiers. They never really got a great storyline.
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11-13-2018, 06:56 AM | #2139 |
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Both IDW and DDP dropped the brainwashing angle pretty much without a word. Frontline 1-4 still had the characters brainwashed, but the main title only really mentioned Storm Shadow.
IDW ARAH has since then completely messed up the Destro/CC dynamic. Like one moment CC tries to kill D, then there's a shock reunion, then it turns out to be a ruse and CC tries to kill D again, then there's another reunion immediately after? Impossible to keep up with it. Quote:
Devils Due really followed up on the brainwashed storyline in their re-introductions to each of the characters from 146. The Hama IDW series sort of talked about it. It wasn't forgotten, just quickly reversed IIRC.
The Destro: Search and Destroy arc is one of my least favorites from the run. The costumes and art are bad, the story is pretty bad... does this end up finishing in the transforming castle? "I built a whole castle for Cobra but made sure it could turn into a replica of my own castle back home, by golly." It doesn't look anything like his own castle, and good observations about the lack of Iron Grenadiers. They never really got a great storyline.
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11-18-2018, 11:28 PM | #2140 |
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