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07-06-2009, 07:44 PM | #41 |
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Because I have issues with something doesn't make me whiney, there are aspects to the changes for the movie that I liked, that you obviously missed in one of my explanations.
No, America being the first country that was FOUNDED on ultimate freedom. It's been America's uncompromising vision of a free world that has been the driving force behind fighting "evil" at all corners of the world. And they have recruited others in their vision. They're the leaders and front runners in fights for freedom around the globe. Thats the American ideology. That's why those characteristics are ingrained in the mythos and culture of GI Joe: American Heroes. How do you not get that? Their personalities and methodology are totally American as well. I have no problem with a mainly compromised American military force that liason with various talents from other countries. As long as its majority recognized as being an American military branch. And no, it isn't a "minor change" in fact its quite major, and quite unneccessary. |
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If this movie proves to be a success an this Forum gets a whole new set of fans cause of it are you goin to be a complete ass an give them hell for enjoying a movie that is made to bring in a new generation of fans to the Mythology? Seriously you are a big embarassment right now. |
07-06-2009, 07:51 PM | #43 |
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I mean everything else looks good for this movie. The previews for the film, and the new toys have re-invigorated my interest in the mythology that I had long since left back in my childhood. I don't mind if a few characters here and there are of different nationality and background. I totally get the purpose behind changing at least a few for diversity ... but the staple of this mythos is of it being an American work force of heroes, the main characters most notably.
I don't see how anyone who truly has a grasp on the pulse of th emythos couldn't see and/or acknowledge that in these conversations. |
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Because if they looking to see if the movie will be accepted by the International community. If they were all completely American I bet most of the responses would be why aren't there anyone else from different countries in it to represent them or why is their base only in the U.S instead of a neutral location since they are a multi-national force.
Thats my point of view tho. |
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Because if they looking to see if the movie will be accepted by the International community. If they were all completely American I bet most of the responses would be why arent their anyone else from different countries in it to represent them or why is their base only in the U.S instead of a neutral location since they are a multi-national force.
Thats my point of view tho. When Godzilla was imported as a film to the states (prior to the horrific 1998 version) did Americans complain the characters, Godzilla, and others didn't represent Americans? No. Why? Because it's a japanese mythology. One can still enjoy it without having your nationality represented on screen. That's a copp out by the film producers trying to grasp for the most amount of money, as opposed to being faithful to the essence of the story to the established fanbase. |
07-06-2009, 08:07 PM | #46 |
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Who said I dont like Americans? I have family who live in the States and I grew up with G.I.Joe.
Unlike other fans I gave each new version of G.I.Joe a chance. When the D.I.C version of the show came out an they changed the theme song I was a little disappointed but I still loved the show. Rise of Cobra is just the same. They may have change a lot of things about it from the look of the Characters to the backgrounds of each of them but I am not going to turn my back on it with out giving it a chance. I have a lot of respect for the G.I.Joe Mythology and fans but when it comes to elitism and sheer stupidity I start to lose respect for the fandom in general. Just one question: Don't you want the Fanbase to expand beyond the currently established one? Last edited by Immortal_Joker; 07-06-2009 at 08:12 PM.. |
07-06-2009, 08:38 PM | #47 |
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Okay guys, Calm down a bit
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07-06-2009, 08:56 PM | #48 |
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Because I have issues with something doesn't make me whiney, there are aspects to the changes for the movie that I liked, that you obviously missed in one of my explanations.
No, America being the first country that was FOUNDED on ultimate freedom. It's been America's uncompromising vision of a free world that has been the driving force behind fighting "evil" at all corners of the world. And they have recruited others in their vision. They're the leaders and front runners in fights for freedom around the globe. Thats the American ideology. That's why those characteristics are ingrained in the mythos and culture of GI Joe: American Heroes. How do you not get that? Their personalities and methodology are totally American as well. I have no problem with a mainly compromised American military force that liason with various talents from other countries. As long as its majority recognized as being an American military branch. And no, it isn't a "minor change" in fact its quite major, and quite unneccessary. so, you can't betray the idea of G.I. Joe as long as it is still a military unit. that's what this movie does. takes the idea and makes it bigger, and quite frankly, better. being international simply makes it more relevant today. the 80's, and its political climate are over, as much as some of you don't want to believe. this movie is about making G.I. Joe relevant to the entire world, not just the U.S., and certainly not just to 30 somethings who can't accept anything being different than what it was in their childhood. |
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07-06-2009, 08:58 PM | #49 |
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it is a major change, but the broadest concept of G.I. Joe is an military team first and foremost. American is just a more specific aspect of that broad idea.
so, you can't betray the idea of G.I. Joe as long as it is still a military unit. that's what this movie does. takes the idea and makes it bigger, and quite frankly, better. being international simply makes it more relevant today. the 80's, and its political climate are over, as much as some of you don't want to believe. this movie is about making G.I. Joe relevant to the entire world, not just the U.S., and certainly not just to 30 somethings who can't accept anything being different than what it was in their childhood. |
07-06-2009, 09:07 PM | #50 |
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Please point out where in today's world there is a multi-national special ops team...there is none.
G.I.Joe is suppose to be a Delta force type American special ops team. As much as you ROC fans think that the UN actually fights tyrants and terrorist, you're wrong,they usually run away from conflicts. By the way,where did the term G.I.Joe come from? |
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