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06-25-2009, 10:15 AM | #11 |
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Cost and display space.
They are toys and meant to be playable. If they made them the correct scale, vehicle wise, the playability factor would be alot less. Toys are made to be played with, not collected unless they are specifically made for that (and when specifically made for collecting you can tell because the quality is better, the detailing is better, all that and then the cost is higher). Compare a motorcycle next to an actual semi and an actual fighter jet. An F-22 is 62' long, wingspan of 44', 16'-8" high. The Peterbilt 379, Optimus Prime in the movie, is what? 20 feet long? 10-15 feet wide? A motorcyle is about 6-7 feet long, 3-4 feet high? So go with the Jet (worst case) and put that down to 1:18 scale (which is still pretty damn big, have you seen those 1:18 jets? Those things are huge). How would you make a TOY that can take that size and then become a too-scale robot? It's harder to make a toy then it is to make a CGI robot transform. Even if the CGI is done that it's physically possible to make the robot go from vehicle to robot, converting that over to toy would be impossible. So Transformers are done the way they are for manufacturing and for playability.
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06-25-2009, 10:23 AM | #12 |
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but on the other hand, would you buy them if they were in scale? I know I would certainly pick some up. I also would be happier if the robots were more in scale, which to some extent the G1 series was. this whole Voyager/leader/legend class stuff, while making it affordable for kids, is killing me as a collector. it would be like having 3 3/4, 6, 12, 24, 9, 3 and 1 inch joes. Where you could only get a Snake Eyes at 12 inch and a Storm Shadow at a 3 inch.
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06-25-2009, 10:26 AM | #13 |
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I just pass on the (largely) out of scale Transformers. I start w/Leader class Megatron and optimus and work down from there. TF1 had a good assortment of appropriate sizes (other than no Leader class Blackout they did an ok job with scale) I passed on lots of TF2 guys because of scale though.
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06-25-2009, 10:30 AM | #14 |
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Right there with you Lo-wan.
I picked up Soundwave...well because its freaking soundwave, but in the movie he is a satelite....and ravage comes out of him...the toy ravage is as big if not bigger than soundwave. I am equally pissed that, even though he isnt really in the movie, Ransack is one of the tiny super fragile ones that looks like he will break into 534 pieces when I transform him. on the positive side, has anyone seen the human alliance class yet? Those rock. Oh and if wheelie was in scale, he would be microscopic.
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06-25-2009, 10:33 AM | #15 |
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06-25-2009, 10:38 AM | #16 |
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They would cost too much and I wouldn't have space to display them.
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06-25-2009, 10:47 AM | #17 |
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If you want something to be in scale, the Human alliance toys seem to be the way to go. From what has been posted, the bots are scaled to the 2 inch figures. So far we will see Bumblebee, Sideswipe, and Skids with Arcee, each will include a figure.
Now myself, I am all about the 1:18th scale and have been asking in Q&As to see them make a line for that scale, but nothing yet, which prompted me to make my own Movie Bumblebee by growing the deluxe using Hydrospan. What I have seen done in the last crossover contest here and my own endever, the scale is not that bad. If you take the extream size vehicle, like the F-22 thats at TRU, and match build it to Starscream using the same conversion design as the new one that came out, He will not be as tall as those Shogun Warriors from the '70s. It can be done and would be hell of cool. And if the price point is an issue, so what. I would rather pay $100 for a 1:18th scale Optimus Prime figure and $50 for Bumblebee than that crap they are passing for Devistator. If they only would think of the possibilities that scale would offer. Easy crossover play value, proper scaleing, and custom foder. If they can release the Falcon at the $150 price point and it did so well, why not venture the Transformers in our scale, if anything, at least do one to test the market like with Sam and Bumblebee. The could take the current HA Bumblebee figure and upscale it to the Joe scale, that way the engineering is already there, they just need to make a new mold of it. I just hope someone over in China will do just that as a bootleg oversize set. Last edited by Jedi_Master_Ben; 06-25-2009 at 10:53 AM.. |
06-25-2009, 10:50 AM | #18 |
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Joe scale is in 1:18. Transformers may be too big in that scale, however, if they were in M.A.S.K. which is in 1:24, then they would work very well together as that scale is not all that big. The Peterbuilt Semi RHINO is not too big and would make for the perfect size in Transformers. Heck, they already have with the Alternators in which are 1:24.
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06-25-2009, 10:59 AM | #19 |
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so what scale is the Ultimate Bumblebee?
reminds me of those RoadBots.
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06-25-2009, 11:00 AM | #20 |
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He is 1:16th or 1:14th scale, too big for the Joes
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