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05-20-2009, 05:06 PM | #71 |
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magik word... junk for my taste... all is about taste. i found these figures cool. you find them junk.. i am not going to judge anyone,, i like this figures and i am happy something new comes out..
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05-20-2009, 05:10 PM | #72 |
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i am not going to waste money on anything hasbro decides to make just because it says gijoe on it, some of the movie toys are cool but alot are junk, i think they are good for customizing though so thats a plus.
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05-20-2009, 05:16 PM | #73 |
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They did lie and they did threaten Jmacq1. I do not understand how you do not see that! Maybe cause your on the Hasbro take for supporting it 100%. You get a free figure for every post I guess? LOL
I would be all for them giving up on Q&As they don't answer shit worth while anyway. Nothing lost there buddy. We can just ignore the fact that children account for the majority of toy sales, and most kids haven't seen the old cartoon.
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I'm trying to have an honest disuccison, if thats you're response I think you should check the teletubbies forum that may be more your speed
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Dr. PHD is RIGHTER thans alls of thems. I needs me some dictionorys.
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05-20-2009, 05:21 PM | #74 |
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Even the VvV dvds and the comics since the 90s and books and Sigma 6 have the name out there (whihc all failed to capture the customer base the orignal ARAH 80s stuff did) and your telling me they have 100% ignored the roots of where all of that toy product started? WOW
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05-20-2009, 05:52 PM | #75 |
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GI Joe is lucky in that it's one of the brands that became a general term for military action figures; like how it's Band-Aid instead of adhesive medial strip.
The real irony is that the 80s GI Joe isn't really the original GI Joe. The original source is with the 12 inch dolls with [i]Kung-Fu Grip![i] back in the fifties. If you want to argue about it not following source material, then argue about that. The 80s GI Joe was a show that sold toys, pure and simple. It's fun to be nostalgic, but at some point you have to realize that we're being nostalgic over a thirty minute toy commercial. I'll admit that there's some fun stuff in there, but it's there to sell action figures. The movie also exists to sell toys and funnel cash into a brand. It's got all the same characters, goofy plot lines, and shameless self exploitation. Really the only thing that's different is the design style. Just because everything looks SLEEK and MODERN doesn't mean it's not as campy as the 80s.
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I'm trying to have an honest disuccison, if thats you're response I think you should check the teletubbies forum that may be more your speed
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Dr. PHD is RIGHTER thans alls of thems. I needs me some dictionorys.
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05-20-2009, 06:53 PM | #76 |
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Ahh, the brilliant short-sightedness of the adult collector.
Sure, collectors drove the 25th style line up. But that's not enough. G.I. Joe is still not an A-List brand in the mind of retailers and the general public and never will be again if they cling mercilessly to the coattails of Hama-era Joe. The "classic" remakes are a finite resource. What happens once they finish making all the Joes from '82 to '87? A whole bunch of collectors stop buying because they don't care for the "neon crap" of '88 onward (with the possible exception of a single figure here and there). What happens once they've made every RAH figure from '82 to '94, to include all the Eco-Warriors, Ninja Force, Star Brigade, Battle Corps, etc...? Just like the late 80's/early 90's, the market will shrink with each passing assortment. Sure there are a few completists out there that'll buy it all, but they're the exception, not the rule. So Hasbro can either let G.I. Joe die a slow death just to keep "adult collectors" happy, or they can make *gasp* toys for children (which is their entire goal as a corporation) and at least make the attempt to extend the life of the line and the brand (which is just plain good business). Does anyone genuinely believe that we'd never see classic product again if the movie succeeds? I'm not talking about people that'll argue that must be the case just to be contrary and to uphold their ideals of self-righteous hatred towards the RoC product. I'm talking about anyone that can look at how Hasbro does business with all their major boys' toy lines, and then sit here and honestly claim there's no way Hasbro will ever make "classic" product again. It's bulls**t. Hasbro brings back classic product every time there's a "lull" in their lines. G.I. Joe will be no different. Just like Star Wars and Transformers. In movie-years you get movie-stuff for kids, and in "off years" you get more collector-oriented offerings. They -need- something like RoC so they can "space out" the desireable classic figures that remain and keep collectors hooked for longer than one more year (which at the rate they were going with the 25th line, one or two more years would have filled out all but the uber-completists' "wish lists"). Now, none of this should be taken as a decree to go out and buy stuff you don't like. There's plenty from the movie line that I'll be skipping. But acting like it's some grave injustice to collectors that Hasbro is even making the attempt to modernize and expand the G.I. Joe brand by marketing to children is ludicrous, childish, and petty. Word. Thank you for stating what should be obvious to any thinking adult. Unfortunately, there's a lot of overgrown children nearby. I have a few questions for the ragers. How long do you think the Anniversary line could continue before it runs its course? Honestly, how many characters (which warrant sales) does the line still need? Do you honestly think that those few figures would signify as much in sales as a blockbuster movie's product? Actually, I wonder how many units (per figure) the current line moves. Compare that to how many units movie merchandise moves. My only concern regarding the movie merchandise is the following...it tanks. If it tanks, what happens to the unproduced merchandise? I know there's some that think this will make the Joe brand magically switch back to clasic stuff, but I don't think that would happen. I think retailers would be weary of the brand and cut back on ordering stuff. If the movie line succeeds, Hasbro can squeeze in more classic stuff alongside the movie stuff. Regarding the Pitt. If it sells well, it'll prove to retailers that people want large Joe items. Hence, more large Joe items can be made, whether they're Terrordomes or Flaggs. If the Pitt doesn't do well, you'll never see those other items. If you don't like the movie stuff, fine. But don't wish it failure. You'll basically be wishing your favored line a death. Why would you do this? Be select with your purchases (as always). I'm going into the movie with as open a mind as possible. I'm approaching the toys that way as well. I think the original vehicles look promising. As do the figures. I also like that the roster of characters is larger than the movie, and those extra characters are being done to fit into the movie aesthetic. I think it's an interesting updated take on one of my favorite properties. The movie will still probably stink. But the toys are starting to appeal to me. I may even buy the Pitt...we'll see. |
05-20-2009, 07:43 PM | #77 |
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i'm only buying what i like. i never got any sig 6 , and little spy troops / val va vem stuff. and hasbro still came out with 25th stuff. why ? to make money, plain and simple. if the movie toys die on the pegs (like all other recent movie toys do) then hasbro will re group and put out the stuff that makes them the most money. look i'm a joe fan and a big star wars fan also, but i'm tired buying the same old crap / repaints that they keep putting out. money is too scarce in todays market. to waste on sub grade figs. buy what you like, but i won't support anything that don't deserve it. and don't hang that 25th future figs crap over our heads. lets get real. a good % of the custom firgures out there are better than some of the stock figs. , and mostly half of the 25th figs i have bought in the last year have had to been modify one way or another.
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05-20-2009, 08:11 PM | #78 |
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GI Joe is lucky in that it's one of the brands that became a general term for military action figures; like how it's Band-Aid instead of adhesive medial strip.
The real irony is that the 80s GI Joe isn't really the original GI Joe. The original source is with the 12 inch dolls with [i]Kung-Fu Grip![i] back in the fifties. If you want to argue about it not following source material, then argue about that. The 80s GI Joe was a show that sold toys, pure and simple. It's fun to be nostalgic, but at some point you have to realize that we're being nostalgic over a thirty minute toy commercial. I'll admit that there's some fun stuff in there, but it's there to sell action figures. The movie also exists to sell toys and funnel cash into a brand. It's got all the same characters, goofy plot lines, and shameless self exploitation. Really the only thing that's different is the design style. Just because everything looks SLEEK and MODERN doesn't mean it's not as campy as the 80s. So living in the 80s was a great time that has come and gone I undertsand that. Just don't tread on me like the flag states...redoing and totally replacing things and telling eveyone this is how it is just does not sit with me as OK. The 3 3/4 inch figures updated and expanded the joe world unlike anything that has come and gone for the line. This is Re-Rise of Sigma 6 and that is all and if the new figures were in the same style as their previous sigma 6 8.5 inch or whatever they were, I would have Z E R O compalints cause then it is new and not trying to take on namesakes that it is not and has it's own realm. It is that simple. Put it in its own world and leave it there. Do not make promises you do not intend to keep by saying they will return to finishing the 25th/modern/resolute lines when they have no care in the world to do so. To your point there is not many more characters but there is still A TON of vehciles they choose not to do and went the VvV JvC route...That is why they baited us with the 25th to begin and continued to fuel the 25th/modern for fear they would loose momentum with the lines so we would just accept thier new changes when the movie came out face value like alot are doing. Well they failed in my book as far as I am concearned. Hot Toys and Sideshow will be getting my money once the 7 packs are released and done, screw this Sigma 6 resurgance crap.
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05-20-2009, 08:15 PM | #79 |
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i'm only buying what i like. i never got any sig 6 , and little spy troops / val va vem stuff. and hasbro still came out with 25th stuff. why ? to make money, plain and simple. if the movie toys die on the pegs (like all other recent movie toys do) then hasbro will re group and put out the stuff that makes them the most money. look i'm a joe fan and a big star wars fan also, but i'm tired buying the same old crap / repaints that they keep putting out. money is too scarce in todays market. to waste on sub grade figs. buy what you like, but i won't support anything that don't deserve it. and don't hang that 25th future figs crap over our heads. lets get real. a good % of the custom firgures out there are better than some of the stock figs. , and mostly half of the 25th figs i have bought in the last year have had to been modify one way or another.
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05-20-2009, 08:19 PM | #80 |
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"We have a really interesting international cast and I personally view the world in a very polyglot sort of way, GO BARACK OBAMA, and so we wanted the movie to really reflect a modern worldview. " - Lorenzo Di Bonaventura With that above quote in mind, it's clearly obvious what kind of mentality I am dealing with. If I am uncomfortable with Lorenzo's worldview, what's it to you? |
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