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03-01-2009, 04:21 AM | #11 |
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"Young boys to grown men have all played with G.I. Joe"
This makes it seem like there is a built in audience. To say that my friends, my age, know a little about GI Joe would be a misconception. Just last night, at the local watering hole, I started messing ith the GI Joe logo soundtrack thing that came with the 25th five packs. Most everyone in the bar knew GI Joe. In fact, most everyone knew Destro, Zartan, Duke, Scarlett, Tomax, Xamot, and more and more. I had one guy ten years older than me explain how Cover Girl wasn't a new character for the movie. This guy is 40 years old, and he knew about Cover Girl. These wern't Hisstank.com members. These were bar patrons. Of course, you can be both. Then there's the band I'm in. We play a song about GI Joe. The response we get from that is crazy. We can never make a dime off of it, but the demand is out there. But she says this... "The film will be about getting people excited about something that doesn't have an automatic built-in audience or expectation. We'll educate people over time." That last line strikes me. What exactly are they going to educate us on? Are they going to teach us their interpretation of GI Joe? I mean, clearly, this ain't the same GI Joe I remember. A fresh new look? No. A total makeover. Grapesoda's image is great! It is indeed cool, funny, and sad. |
03-01-2009, 04:21 AM | #12 |
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the modern era's bottom line on big budget movies:
a studio's primary objective is a successful FIRST WEEKEND at the box office. this is the new way. no longer are they concerned with an extended box office run as they were in the past. smaller, feel-good movies are no longer being made because they cost a ton of money to market with very little return. the bigger, faster, spectacle driven action movies/thrillers are pumped out because audiences will flock within the first week to buy the hype for themselves. there is a general drop in attendance thereafter. when this occurs, the studios are already in second gear. notice how quickly movies are pulled from theaters and the subsequent DVD/Blu Rays are released? studios race to compete with the internet and the pirate black market - both of whom have been cashing in all along. it's a sad, grim reality of modern times in the movie business. that said, Joe will do just fine. people will flock, the studio will make a hefty profit, and Part 2 will already be in the works. mark my words. Last edited by CaliBeachhead32; 03-02-2009 at 04:35 PM.. |
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03-01-2009, 04:35 AM | #13 |
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Let's just leave the whole GI Joe Movie bitching escapades with this:
Stephen Sommers: "Hey, The Mummy was a great property!" *takes a dump on celluloid, names it The Mummy Trilogy* Stephen Sommers: "Hey, Dracula, Wolf Man and Frankenstein were all great properties!" *takes a dump on celluloid, names it Van Helsing* Stephen Sommers: "Hey, GI Joe was a great property" *takes a dump on celluloid, names it GI Joe* And if you expect anything more than a huge steamer caught on film out of next year's remake of When Worlds Collide, think again. This guy's built an impressive career out of making licensed garbage. He's Uwe Boll with a budget. Or a less-subtle Paul Anderson. All that said, this movie will probably make buckets of cash no matter how much the hardcore fans call for his blood.
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03-02-2009, 07:35 AM | #14 |
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Y'know...I see tirades like this and I seriously have to wonder:
Who did you think was going to be directing a G.I. Joe live-action movie? I'm not talking about fantasy dream-world directors, I'm talking about who, realistically, was going to direct a G.I. Joe movie and was actually going to be any more "faithful" to the source material than Sommers and his writers are being? Sommers is a director that's got experience with FX-driven, fairly benign large-scale action-adventure films that tend to be fairly successful with general audiences. What more do you expect? That's exactly what G.I. Joe should be. I mean seriously...Steven Spielberg was never going to be the director of a G.I. Joe movie. Last edited by Jmacq1; 03-02-2009 at 07:41 AM.. |
03-02-2009, 01:37 PM | #15 |
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well, there are a lot of young and new directors in hollywood that can make awesome films as well as others that can make great action, war, or sci-fi films that are just as engaging.
but somehow, holltwood always feels the need to get one of the big three hack jobs (paul w anderson, michael bay, and stephen sommers) to do "kids' video game/cartoon" movies. i guess it is because these guys all follow hollywood's "really big opening weekend", as CaliBeachhead32 so elloquently explained.
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03-02-2009, 02:22 PM | #16 |
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Is Snake Eyes really French in the movie? God what a disaster if he is!
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03-02-2009, 04:13 PM | #17 |
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but somehow, holltwood always feels the need to get one of the big three hack jobs (paul w anderson, michael bay, and stephen sommers) to do "kids' video game/cartoon" movies.
i guess it is because these guys all follow hollywood's "really big opening weekend", as CaliBeachhead32 so elloquently explained. Sorry, but when people start spouting off at the mouth about "hackjobs"and whining about a director that on-paper looks perfectly well-suited for G.I. Joe, it sounds a lot more to me like they're really saying "How dare Paramount not hire ME to write and direct the "perfect" Joe movie!" The cast all this vitriol at the director but offer no real alternatives whatsoever. Or offer interpretations of G.I. Joe that are every bit as "different" from RAH Joe as this movie already appears to be, just in a different direction (IE the "I want a gritty, realistic military action movie!" crowd). |
03-02-2009, 04:20 PM | #18 |
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Stephen Sommers is an extremely proficient technical director. the movie will look great and the action will be staged expertly. the biggest problems with the movie will be the paper thin plot and terrible dialogue, which is more the fault of the writer or producer.
the only fault with Sommers in those regards is the fact that he doesn't seem to care about those things in his movies. so, yes, he will contribute to the problem, but the guy can certainly has the ability to pull off a G.I. Joe movie. |
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03-02-2009, 04:39 PM | #19 |
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03-02-2009, 04:56 PM | #20 |
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all of this rambling on about this director vs that director is all garbage.
here's the deal. a STUDIO hires a director for various reasons, but almost ALWAYS because he's under CONTRACT with that studio. they're called 'picture deals.' if Sommers was chosen, that's probably because the studio thought (financially speaking - they dont really think thoughts, only bottom lines) he was the best investment. his name attached to a project will get particular actors and investors to take a closer look at the script. simple stuff out here in Hollywood. |
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