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08-13-2022, 06:46 PM | #101 |
Shabba
Join Date: Mar 2011
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I use the same head for my Stalker. I alternate between a Marauder beret and the knit hat depending on the look I want. I use the green Shipwreck body as my base figure.
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08-14-2022, 06:33 AM | #102 |
Iron Grenadier
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Also, what makes you decide which headgear to go with on a given day//week? I keep switching to make sure they both look good, without just getting too settled on one or the other. Also depends on what I see others doing at the moment--BatesDragon got me switched back to the knit cap a few days ago, but mine looks more off to me now. Reworking the skull, chin, eyebrows and mustache (but also just getting use to it after a few days). |
08-14-2022, 03:06 PM | #103 |
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Ever since the Sideshow Collectibles Stalker-inspired photo you did (now your Avatar) I?ve become curious just how much the Wayons head could be made to resemble ROC even less. ... thanks for the idea. |
08-15-2022, 05:30 PM | #104 |
Crimson Guard
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Kind of continuing our conversation on berets from FB, with Scarlett, Snake Eyes and Beachhead wearing berets as a part of there combat gear, this gives me some The Expendables vibes. It kind of ties them all together as a unit.
I get that berets are not practical in combat, but I like the (prior) exclusiveness that a beret portrayed. Of course, now, that exclusiveness is illustrated through the color of the beret, but typically only with dress uniforms. As I mentioned on FB, my Army son says they are hot and uncomfortable (itchy), but there is still this pride in wearing one. And there is this kind of style where the "cool" way to wear a beret is with the flap(?) as flat and pointed down the side of the head as possible. At his graduation from boot camp, my son was constantly trying to make the side lay down as flat as possible. A good friend of mine's son-in-law just retired as a Major from the Army. My friend, Frank, would always emphasize that his SIL is a Major. I finally told him one day, "Bro! Your son-in-law is not simply a Major, he's a 75th Ranger -- like a legit, tan-beret Ranger, not simply went to Ranger school." On another note, I know Hasbro has always marketed Stalker as a "Ranger," but I've always considered him a Green Beret. As mentioned on FB, that scene from "Like Chimney Sweepers Come to Dust," there are several Joes who should be considered Green Berets, including Duke and Flint. There was a discussion on identifying the characters in that one panel somewhere here on Hisstank. I created an image of that panel trying to identify each member, but it's on my old laptop. If I can find that discussion, I'll post a link in this thread if that's OK. Jason
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08-15-2022, 10:57 PM | #105 |
Iron Grenadier
Join Date: Feb 2017
Location: Kansas
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Kind of continuing our conversation on berets from FB, with Scarlett, Snake Eyes and Beachhead wearing berets as a part of there combat gear, this gives me some The Expendables vibes. It kind of ties them all together as a unit.
I get that berets are not practical in combat, but I like the (prior) exclusiveness that a beret portrayed. Of course, now, that exclusiveness is illustrated through the color of the beret, but typically only with dress uniforms. As I mentioned on FB, my Army son says they are hot and uncomfortable (itchy), but there is still this pride in wearing one. And there is this kind of style where the "cool" way to wear a beret is with the flap(?) as flat and pointed down the side of the head as possible. At his graduation from boot camp, my son was constantly trying to make the side lay down as flat as possible. A good friend of mine's son-in-law just retired as a Major from the Army. My friend, Frank, would always emphasize that his SIL is a Major. I finally told him one day, "Bro! Your son-in-law is not simply a Major, he's a 75th Ranger -- like a legit, tan-beret Ranger, not simply went to Ranger school." On another note, I know Hasbro has always marketed Stalker as a "Ranger," but I've always considered him a Green Beret. As mentioned on FB, that scene from "Like Chimney Sweepers Come to Dust," there are several Joes who should be considered Green Berets, including Duke and Flint. There was a discussion on identifying the characters in that one panel somewhere here on Hisstank. I created an image of that panel trying to identify each member, but it's on my old laptop. If I can find that discussion, I'll post a link in this thread if that's OK. Jason The Expendables visual reference was somewhat intentional, though honestly not in a particularly positive way (initially). But after reviewing it for a few days before posting, i thought it looked "cool" in a way, and realized that the photo could be taken and enjoyed in different ways. Love the additional info on the beret shaping. Based on what you describe might explain why I don't like the unmodified beret sculpts available. I assume the high side has a cool preferred shape as well? Can you ask? Retconning Stalker to a Green Beret is something I can't bring myself to do. Maybe because Stalker is what introduced my young self to the concept of a US Army Ranger, and through the years, how cool that was (whereas Green Beret always seemed to have that image to me). But I like how you balanced out the various elite forces in you squad, and Stalker is definitely worthy of the switch. BTW, in my T13, Stalker definitely went to Ranger school, but may not have actually served in a actual Ranger unit. I envision him being plucked out very early in his young career to be part of one Duke's mid years spec ops unit (preceding the T13 iteration) along with Scarlett and SE (and other non T13). For my toyline, I'd redub him "Special Operations" (in the nineties it was "Black Ops"), leaving the toytag "Ranger" to Beachhead. |
08-16-2022, 06:29 PM | #106 |
just a Marine
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I'm glad we could continue this here on old-fashioned forum threads. On Facebook I feel like I'm exceeding an written word limit beyond one sentence.
The Expendables visual reference was somewhat intentional, though honestly not in a particularly positive way (initially). But after reviewing it for a few days before posting, i thought it looked "cool" in a way, and realized that the photo could be taken and enjoyed in different ways. Love the additional info on the beret shaping. Based on what you describe might explain why I don't like the unmodified beret sculpts available. I assume the high side has a cool preferred shape as well? Can you ask? Retconning Stalker to a Green Beret is something I can't bring myself to do. Maybe because Stalker is what introduced my young self to the concept of a US Army Ranger, and through the years, how cool that was (whereas Green Beret always seemed to have that image to me). But I like how you balanced out the various elite forces in you squad, and Stalker is definitely worthy of the switch. BTW, in my T13, Stalker definitely went to Ranger school, but may not have actually served in a actual Ranger unit. I envision him being plucked out very early in his young career to be part of one Duke's mid years spec ops unit (preceding the T13 iteration) along with Scarlett and SE (and other non T13). For my toyline, I'd redub him "Special Operations" (in the nineties it was "Black Ops"), leaving the toytag "Ranger" to Beachhead. I like the idea of your joes wearing their original berets, showing where they came from, in garrison non tactical environments of course. BH needs his maroon beret. |
08-20-2022, 07:15 AM | #107 |
Iron Grenadier
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The above look was never meant to be. I've been learning to accept berets on more Joes of my T13 as alternate looks, but beret over baklava is just too much for me. To be fair, I took the test shot to back sure--and for this combo: yeah, nah? Baklava OR beret--I could do not both. But to test the beret I would need a maskless Beachhead. In the coming months, I had planned to scour my fodder bins and figures for a good alternate maskless head for this Beachhead. The plan was to find something tough, mean, a little on the older side, shaven head with stubble would be ideal. And again definitely mean. But last night, while waiting for paint to dry on another figure study (beret-related of course), I stumbled upon a head that seemed like a very good candidate: 20220820_032857 by HissHissFangFang, on Flickr The head is a Hasbro Joe head, not a cast, but had to be painted. Guesses? 20220820_015002 by HissHissFangFang, on Flickr It has natural sculpted stubble at the chin. Used the paint skin color mixed with a little of the brown Citadel wash. The paint apps are kinda rough just to get the test shots. The head is a bit big--I will be doing some test shots with others to see how out of place it may (or may not) be. 20220820_034536 by HissHissFangFang, on Flickr Above is a terrible photo paint job as a quick test to get an idea of how a baklava would look over the head. In hand, the head is such a different shape than my masked one that I wasn't fully convinced it was right. 20220820_034011 by HissHissFangFang, on Flickr I could totally get behind this beret look as on alternate. Beachhead does need a maskless head?he has no reason to be wearing it 24/7 like Snake Eyes. I also decided that if T13 goes beret, colors will be based on whatever looks best on an individual basis. All T13 are above elite and can lay claim to distinction above many else,but either can't flaunt that publicly (or don't care or need to). However, fashion sense and looking good on film is another story... 20220820_032857~3 (1) by HissHissFangFang, on Flickr Also: berets aren't the only alternate head gear for T13, especially since they are not my preference: 20220820_045735 by HissHissFangFang, on Flickr The shot above was inspired by Google image search results from Expendables 4. The head has a certain Statham vibe to it (I might need to take more photos to show that). Also I had been researching some more modern day beret looks/images, and found the only one who can pull it off without looking dated or out of place was Statham. At the same time, the guy looks great in the knit cap as well. I leave you all to search for those images at your own convenience. 20220820_032857~2 by HissHissFangFang, on Flickr
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08-20-2022, 08:56 AM | #108 |
Cobra Viper
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I do like that head for beach head. Agreed that he does have a mean look to him which is appropriate. Is that a 50th Hit n Run head? It looks familiar.
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08-20-2022, 09:10 AM | #109 |
Kraken
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Awesome alternate head. It's gotta be either one of the last 3 versions Hit and Run or FSS Salvo the all used that head. Looks great with the paint job you gave it
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08-20-2022, 10:05 AM | #110 |
Shabba
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Bless you man--I needed to get something exactly like this. The Ripcord head no doubt looks better on that larger body. But how did you get it too fit on neck ball (high and loose)? I've got my ways, but curious Bout what you did...
Also, what makes you decide which headgear to go with on a given day//week? I keep switching to make sure they both look good, without just getting too settled on one or the other. Also depends on what I see others doing at the moment--BatesDragon got me switched back to the knit cap a few days ago, but mine looks more off to me now. Reworking the skull, chin, eyebrows and mustache (but also just getting use to it after a few days). In terms of the beret or knit hat, it depends on how I feel, how he's posed and who he's next to. I probably lean more to the knit hat for more dynamic poses, but come back to the beret as it's the classic v1 look. |
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