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02-14-2022, 11:55 AM | #1 |
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The plain Cobra Officers/troopers are they supposed to be using SKS sniper rifles or Ak 47s?
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02-14-2022, 12:11 PM | #2 |
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Officers wield an AK-47 and Troopers use Dragunov sniper rifles.
At least in terms of the V1 figures.
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02-14-2022, 12:11 PM | #3 |
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Hasbro gave the troopers the Dragunov sniper rifle and the officers the AK-47 or AKM.
A lot of people over the years have pointed out that you’d expect infantrymen to have assault rifles like the AK-47, and then your more highly trained soldiers serving as officers might have a more specialized weapon like a sniper rifle. So, a lot of people have argued that Hasbro’s assignment of weapons seems backwards, or (since the officer has the chest rig for more AK ammo) that Hasbro gave the right gun to the right figure but named the figures in a backwards way. Obviously anybody can think what they like, but the way I like to explain it is that early Cobra emphasized ambushes and terroristic assassinations rather than infantry operations. Given the size and capability of the US armed forces and the likelihood that many of Cobra’s potential recruits might be there primarily for the cruelty and opportunity for personal gain, rather than as philosophical ideologues or religious zealots willing to die for their beliefs, i think it does make a lot of sense that early Cobra had only a smaller number of hard core true believers who’d be willing to stand their ground in a pitched firefight with an AK. As far as the SKS, having those rifles in Cobra make sense (like maybe all the residents of Springfield get their own at a certain age or after a Cobra initiation?), but they weren’t a part of the original figure series. Same goes for RPGs. |
02-14-2022, 12:53 PM | #4 |
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Even as a kid I thought it was weird. Regular Trooper should have had the AK, and I'd have given the Officer some kind of submachine gun (like a Skorpion, or some other Eastern Bloc weapon). Save the Dragunov for a specialized trooper, but it was the very first line, so they were probably just spitballing I suppose.
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02-14-2022, 12:56 PM | #5 |
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Here's a cool shot of one of the Red Dawn villains, with his Jatimatic, later made popular by Stallone's Cobra.
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02-14-2022, 12:57 PM | #6 |
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Even as a kid I thought it was weird. Regular Trooper should have had the AK, and I'd have given the Officer some kind of submachine gun (like a Skorpion, or some other Eastern Bloc weapon). Save the Dragunov for a specialized trooper, but it was the very first line, so they were probably just spitballing I suppose.
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02-14-2022, 01:16 PM | #7 |
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As for the officer with an ak vs the trooper with a SKS, in my mind I thought maybe in those early days Cobra didn't have the money for it's troops to be wasting away ammunition with automatic weapons, so they only issued them to squad leaders and officers. Kind of like the olden days when squads would nearly all have rifles and one or two guys with a BAR or thomspon. Those old Hasbro guys were big into military history, so it's possible that is what they had in mind. |
02-14-2022, 01:23 PM | #8 |
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I've been trying to figure that one out. The only thing I can come up with is that they matched it up to the card art. Heck maybe that was never ment to be part of the sash. Maybe they fixed a 38 year old factory mistake. Someone call up Mr. Rudat and ask him about it.
As for the officer with an ak vs the trooper with a SKS, in my mind I thought maybe in those early days Cobra didn't have the money for it's troops to be wasting away ammunition with automatic weapons, so they only issued them to squad leaders and officers. Kind of like the olden days when squads would nearly all have rifles and one or two guys with a BAR or thomspon. Those old Hasbro guys were big into military history, so it's possible that is what they had in mind. |
02-14-2022, 03:27 PM | #9 |
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and officers are never snipers. They've got more important shit to do. (Or from an enlisted point of view, the officers are too dumb to be entrusted with such an important job. ) |
02-14-2022, 03:29 PM | #10 |
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Awesome they figured that out, thanks for letting me know!
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