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Yes | 112 | 70.00% | |
No | 48 | 30.00% | |
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01-06-2022, 09:45 AM | #1 |
Just a fan
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Maybe you like the figure, but hate the character, or vice versa. In either case, do you like Serpentor overall?
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01-06-2022, 10:01 AM | #2 |
Iron Grenadier
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I didn't like him much in the cartoon, but the comic version was great, especially his introduction.
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01-06-2022, 10:52 AM | #3 |
Cobra Viper
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I like him. I was 10 when he was released and I thought it was a really cool idea and I liked both his introduction in the comics and the Arise, Serpentor, Arise miniseries.
In hindsight, I get why people think he was too much of a leap from the more grounded stories and toys, but I can suspend my disbelief enough to justify him. Plus, he was the first toy I got when I visited my new home before we moved 3 hours away from all my friends, so he's got a little extra meaning to me. |
01-06-2022, 10:56 AM | #4 |
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01-06-2022, 11:12 AM | #5 |
Iron Grenadier
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Loved the figure.
Hated the cartoon version with a fiery passion. Enjoyed the comic version. Would have liked to have seen the 'toon approach the character in the same way. I can see CC wanting to have Mindbender brew him up a super soldier general fella, but I don't get the logic in the likes of Destro and Baroness suddenly jumping on board with the "we don't like our leader....let's MAKE a new one!" deal. |
01-06-2022, 11:27 AM | #6 |
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Would have liked to have seen the 'toon approach the character in the same way. I can see CC wanting to have Mindbender brew him up a super soldier general fella, but I don't get the logic in the likes of Destro and Baroness suddenly jumping on board with the "we don't like our leader....let's MAKE a new one!" deal.
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01-06-2022, 11:29 AM | #7 |
stretching your O-ring
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So I went with 'no', but only because I really, really love the Sunbow toon, and that's my preferred media.
Why I disliked Sunbow Serpentor as a kid: - The only character with a catch phrase, which dumbed-down everything around him. To that point Joe had escaped the 'kiddie' treatment. - Why does Cobra need an emperor when they don't even have a single lasting base, much less a country? - His gear is NEVER explained. There's no ceremony or anything, he's just given it. - How did Mindbender get so much power? He just appears and starts trying to make Serpentor. - Mindbender's physique is never explained. - He's presented as the foil to Sgt Slaughter, a lead from the front type of character, but he mostly avoids people on his air chariot. He's supposed to be a super soldier. Why I didn't like the toy in 1986: - He has too much bling compared to the rest of Cobra at that time, so his toy didn't fit with them. - His air chariot is basically Star Wars stuff when everyone else is flying airplanes and driving tanks and jeeps. It's not explained either. - I didn't like that his face was showing. What attracted me to Cobra was cool face masks and helmets. What I didn't like about Comic Serpentor (I DO like him though) - Overall he had no impact on anything. - Other characters largely ignored his input. So what did they create him for? - Hama just dropped him like a wet sock when he was done playing with him (as he does with everything Cobra, IMO) On a positive note, the way he started was great compared to Sunbow Serpentor. He seemed to be taking the opposite approach to Cobra Commander and not leading by threats. He was a bit of a schmoozer. It made me interested to see where Hama would go with him and then he was just dropped. It's stuff like this that baffles me as to why people are so high on Larry Hama. |
01-06-2022, 11:31 AM | #8 |
stretching your O-ring
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01-06-2022, 11:51 AM | #9 |
Just a fan
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I did do a Sunbow specific poll about the better Joe leader. |
01-06-2022, 11:53 AM | #10 |
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Yes. His Marvel origin was one of the best arcs in the ARAH comics, but he never lived up to the conflict of creating him. I like Dick Gautier, who voiced him for Sunbow, and I see his playful smile each time I hear Serpentor, but that season wasn't my favorite. And, I had the figure w/air chariot and thought he was great. Again, it's the way that we imagine the characters in our own minds that makes/breaks them. Buzz, Hama, Paramount, etc. have their own stories to tell. Some were great, some not so much.
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