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09-13-2021, 01:20 PM | #381 |
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09-13-2021, 01:35 PM | #382 |
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If people had looked those definitions up before this month, they would have been different. So I’m not sure I understand how laziness or uneducated applies?
Why is that vaccine article on the Washington Post in the “politics” section? Shouldn’t it be in medical or current events? It's not the CDC's fault that people don't know what "immunity" means. It's the public education system's. ;) Or that certain groups are looking to twist & spin even innocent changes made to better cater to an undereducated population. It was in the "Politics" section because certain politicians politicized it. Read the article, maybe.
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09-13-2021, 01:38 PM | #383 |
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1. The indisputable fact is that 99% of the people dying and in ICU's are unvaccinated. 2. The idea that this vaccine was "rushed" is somewhat of a misnomer. An unprecedented amount of research and funding was dedicated to developing the vaccine because we were at a worldwide health crisis. 3. If you have reservations about conditions and potential side effects from the vaccine, consult your doctor or primary care provider. Based on previous vaccines, side effects generally occur from vaccines within eight weeks of the final dose. Even then, they occur very rarely. Millions of vaccines have been administered throughout the world and the only people being admitted to hospitals and dying in large numbers are the unvaccinated. As someone who is vaccinated, I am no longer greatly concerned for my safety. I am healthy, relatively young (late-thirties), with no known co-morbidities or pre-existing conditions. However, I still advocate that others get the vaccine more out of concern for their health than my own. Last edited by Snakes; 09-13-2021 at 01:44 PM.. |
09-13-2021, 01:40 PM | #384 |
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Weird how people ask questions about a never before used vaccine that is being pushed in a highly political way right? Stupid rubes wanting to make sure they know what's going into their bodies regarding which of the 3 new vaccines might be safest for them (2 of which are utilizing a technology never before used in a vaccine and 1 utilizing the old way but without the decades of testing) . Being a condescending ass is definitely the way to change their minds though. I'm pretty sure you're just another snarky comment or 2 away from getting those that are on the fence to come around to your way of thinking. Keep up the good work.
1. I showed proof that mRNA vaccines have been tested for years and coronavirus vaccines have been in development for years… doesn’t matter 2. Proof that the trials were fast tracked because of a infusion of government funding and global lab cooperation. Trials take so long because there is only so much money and lab space… doesn’t matter. 3. There is crystal clear evidence that the vaccines work … doesn’t matter 4. Over a billion vaccines administered worldwide, There’s zero evidence, zero, that the vaccine has adverse effects… doesn’t matter 5. Crystal clear evidence that virtually every recent COVID death are unvaccinated… doesn’t matter. Every single question raised by the anti-vaxxer crowd on this thread has been thoroughly and unequivocally addressed multiple times. Sorry if that is “condescending”. It’s pretty clear that this is not about facts or science. I’m going to go ahead and trust scientific consensus and the advice of every major medical organization on the planet. You know, the same folks who eradicated Polio, Measles, Chicken Pox, Whooping Cough and Small Pox.They have a better track record than conspiracy theorists. |
09-13-2021, 01:41 PM | #385 |
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Well I’m making the opposite point. I’m going to trust the smart folks. I’m not a scientists and scientists have continually improved lives. They have a good track record so I’m going to defer instead of relying on my googling skills.
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09-13-2021, 01:53 PM | #386 |
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09-13-2021, 01:55 PM | #387 |
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So if a group of scientists says they find that the Covid vaccines are completely safe with no long term damaging effects and they provide data, you would believe them, right? Now let's say there is another team of scientists that provides data that they are now finding that the Covid vaccine is causing decreases of certain critically important T Cells that help to fight off cancers and illnesses, would you believe them after reviewing the data? |
09-13-2021, 02:04 PM | #388 |
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*Sigh...* 😆
It's not the CDC's fault that people don't know what "immunity" means. It's the public education system's. ;) Or that certain groups are looking to twist & spin even innocent changes made to better cater to an undereducated population. It was in the "Politics" section because certain politicians politicized it. Read the article, maybe. |
09-13-2021, 02:05 PM | #389 |
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The COVID vax versus non-vax is arguably the largest clinical trial in the history of medicine. The data regarding hospitalized, ICU admits and deaths of non-vaccinated versus vaccinated overwhelmingly supports vaccination. That's before you even consider long term complications from COVID infection. Vaccine side effects are unfortunate, but very rare (perhaps 1 or 2 per million doses). Even if you have a 99% chance of surviving COVID without complications, that 1% of morbidity or mortality is 10,000 per million COVID infections. The math is simple. Vaccines are proven beneficial and safe.
BTW, my state medical board has gone so far as to issue a warning to us practitioners threatening suspension or revocation of license to practice for vaccine misinformation.
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09-13-2021, 02:12 PM | #390 |
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This thread is a microcosm of a bigger issue...we are better than this as a country and the things that divide us are not as significant as those that unite us. I have served alongside people who would have diametrically opposed positions on a host of topics. They were able to focus on the commonalities and not the differences. Face to face the vast majority of us could have a reasoned and respectful conversation. Online it becomes way too easy to lose sight of the basic humanity of people who disagree with us.
You would think so, but video footage of recent town hall and school board meetings have proved otherwise, unfortunately.
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