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04-16-2021, 07:48 PM | #30981 |
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I agree. If it’s descends too far into “darkness”, it becomes something else. There’s plenty of edgy military thrillers, if that’s what you want.
As a super hero guy, I’ve had my fill of “edgy” directors who are too cool to respect the roots, but not too cool to take the job. Honestly, I think Nolan’s Batman trilogy is shit and Snyder’s Justice League is a fucking mess. Not interested in that fate for GI Joe. I also think we conflate dark and gritty with being mature way too much.
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04-16-2021, 07:59 PM | #30982 |
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Honestly if anything a gi joe movie should be in the vein of forces of valor.
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04-16-2021, 08:48 PM | #30983 |
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I agree. If it’s descends too far into “darkness”, it becomes something else. There’s plenty of edgy military thrillers, if that’s what you want.
As a super hero guy, I’ve had my fill of “edgy” directors who are too cool to respect the roots, but not too cool to take the job. Honestly, I think Nolan’s Batman trilogy is shit and Snyder’s Justice League is a fucking mess. Not interested in that fate for GI Joe. I also think we conflate dark and gritty with being mature way too much. I'm all for new takes on characters and fresh ideas, but all we get are variations on the same hackneyed tropes people have convinced themselves are "fresh" and "edgy." You see it everywhere these days, from big-budget blockbusters to comics to fan-fic and custom figures. Shit, that Joker movie everyone wants to think is so great is just a rip-off of much better flicks done by much better film-makers. It's essentially a buncha King of Comedy, feat. The Joker!
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04-16-2021, 09:01 PM | #30984 |
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I agree with you!!!
Renegades is definitely in my opinion the best modern version of Joe. It’s serious and competent enough without losing the fun of the brand. There’s still serious action and mature storytelling, but it’s not the whole generic “grimdark” edginess that so many nerds think makes something “cool” when instead it just makes it generic and forgettable.
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04-16-2021, 09:45 PM | #30985 |
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Dudes! What did I miss? It’s sushi and burgers tonight! Wooooooooo!
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04-16-2021, 10:05 PM | #30986 |
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I'm with ya on Nolan and Snyder. The only Nolan Bat-film I really liked was Batman Begins. Ledger's Joker, Two-face and that scene where Batman kidnaps the Chinese business criminal are all that make the second flick any good. The third one is just fucking stupid and some real shitty film-making to boot. You could tell Nolan, and everyone else, was just phoning it in. And Snyder is good at visuals, but a shitty storyteller, and he's got really generic sensibilities. "We need to make this scene stand out somehow...add slo-mo blood/gore." "This performance lacks emotional weight...add slo-mo blood/gore AND a primal scream!" "We need to make this 5th fight/battle scene different from the previous four (and the following five)...add slo-mo blood/gore, but do it in that stop-start way where we slow it down and then speed it up while panning, zooming and sweeping the "cameras!"
I'm all for new takes on characters and fresh ideas, but all we get are variations on the same hackneyed tropes people have convinced themselves are "fresh" and "edgy." You see it everywhere these days, from big-budget blockbusters to comics to fan-fic and custom figures. Shit, that Joker movie everyone wants to think is so great is just a rip-off of much better flicks done by much better film-makers. It's essentially a buncha King of Comedy, feat. The Joker!
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04-16-2021, 10:42 PM | #30987 |
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Krabby patties!
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04-16-2021, 11:10 PM | #30989 |
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04-16-2021, 11:48 PM | #30990 |
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Looks like fun. When do we begin?
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