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View Poll Results: It's time for a Zarana & Zandar 2-pack! | |||
YEAH!! | 57 | 70.37% | |
no.. | 24 | 29.63% | |
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03-13-2021, 02:00 AM | #141 |
Zarana & Zandar
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What do people get out of discrediting me? :(
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This is amazing! We're getting a ZANDAR figure! ZANDAR featured prominently in the Cobra Commander series! Character development! It's a great time to be a Zandar fan! Thank you, Hasbro!!! |
03-13-2021, 02:50 AM | #142 |
Crimson Guard
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Larry Hama's Zandar (and 99% of his characters for that matter) were motivated by duty or honor or power....not by their genitals. I assume many of the Joes/Cobras had perfectly normal sex lives. Many of them might have been into some kink. Who knows? None of my business. And Larry knew it had nothing to do with telling good stories to a mostly children's audience while trying to sell toys to said children. I know it is/was "fashionable" for IDW to take their licensed Hasbro properties and turn them into woke caricatures of what they were 35 years ago. This includes making all the members of Jem lesbians, and making some of them ugly and fat, and then introducing the concept of "gay" Transformers and even later "Trans-Transformers" which to me is so blitheringly stupid I can't really even fathom it. DT, I've always admired your passion, but the whole "weird incesty twins that speak their own private twin language, and the gay boy twin has a weird crush on the girl twin" thing might go over extremely well in anime, but in GI Joe it's just plain.....weird!! Of course you're absolutely free to feel however you want about any of these characters, but a lot of ARAH fans are pretty old school leftovers from Reagan's 80s, and might not necessarily be into the whole anime/incesty thing. But you're right...head canon is head canon...it's your own personal thing. In MY Joe universe, Zarana and Zandar are no more "brother and sister" to Zartan then Buzzer or Ripper. I've always thought Zandar especially was the lamest form of 3rd rate knockoff, and he pretty much doesn't even exist to me. Having said that, I do hope one day you get the perfect two-pack you've always dreamed of, cause you'll be thrilled and it won't affect my collection or "canon" in the slightest. And on one last personal note, my brother has twins, a boy and a girl, about a year and a half old. I sincerely hope they grow up without any kind of weird attachment to each other and the boy doesn't walk around all day with pieces of the girl's clothes on him. I hope they grow up into healthy, confident individuals that surely feel a bond for their twin, but nothing creepy or obsessive. Last edited by Otomo; 03-13-2021 at 03:04 AM.. |
03-13-2021, 03:34 AM | #143 |
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Nothing. We are discussing it. What do you expect to happen? I don't think anyone is being rude about it just why or why not this could happen and why they would want or not want it to happen. Honestly, I think your being a little dramatic about this and maybe trying to get a bit of attention. In the grand scheme of things it isn't all that important but to each his or her own.
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03-13-2021, 10:19 AM | #144 |
Zarana & Zandar
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Larry Hama's Zandar (and 99% of his characters for that matter) were motivated by duty or honor or power....not by their genitals.[/quote] I didn't say he was motivated by his genitals anymore than Scarlett or Snake-Eyes. Quote:
I know it is/was "fashionable" for IDW to take their licensed Hasbro properties and turn them into woke caricatures of what they were 35 years ago. This includes making all the members of Jem lesbians, and making some of them ugly and fat, and then introducing the concept of "gay" Transformers and even later "Trans-Transformers" which to me is so blitheringly stupid I can't really even fathom it.
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DT, I've always admired your passion, but the whole "weird incesty twins that speak their own private twin language, and the gay boy twin has a weird crush on the girl twin" thing might go over extremely well in anime, but in GI Joe it's just plain.....weird!!
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Of course you're absolutely free to feel however you want about any of these characters, but a lot of ARAH fans are pretty old school leftovers from Reagan's 80s, and might not necessarily be into the whole anime/incesty thing.
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I've always thought Zandar especially was the lamest form of 3rd rate knockoff, and he pretty much doesn't even exist to me.
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Having said that, I do hope one day you get the perfect two-pack you've always dreamed of, cause you'll be thrilled and it won't affect my collection or "canon" in the slightest.
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03-13-2021, 10:44 AM | #145 |
GI Joe Graffiti General
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Truer word Havent been spoken. I get holding on to what we grew up and loved, but for god sakes the last thing we need is another white robed Storm shadow or Blacked out snake eyes. 36 years of trying to keep it the same. To hell with that. Reinvented and modern is the future, and what we desperately NEED. Hasbro is trying to bridge a gap between the old collectors and potential new ones.
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03-13-2021, 12:20 PM | #146 |
Crimson Guard
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Well, lord knows Hasbro tried many times, and failed.
Reinvent too much, and us aging old men just say "nope" and opt out. Besides, GI Joe without dueling ninjas in black and white just isn't GI Joe. May as well get into Fortnite or Call of Duty or whatever the young whippersnappers are up to. Over the last 20 years, if it didn't "feel" like ARAH Joe to me, I ignored it, and I know I wasn't alone. I think when the last of Gen X-ers stop spending money on the brand, the brand dies. How many 1960s collectors are still out there buying stuff? And more importantly, how many young people have latched on to 1960s Joes and collect them in their place? If the answer is "none"....then 12 inch Joes are gonna be worthless in about 20 years. The ones that haven't decayed may go to toy museums or something. |
03-13-2021, 02:18 PM | #147 |
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Truer word Havent been spoken.
I get holding on to what we grew up and loved, but for god sakes the last thing we need is another white robed Storm shadow or Blacked out snake eyes. 36 years of trying to keep it the same. To hell with that. Reinvented and modern is the future, and what we desperately NEED. Hasbro is trying to bridge a gap between the old collectors and potential new ones.
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03-13-2021, 03:43 PM | #148 |
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Truer word Havent been spoken.
I get holding on to what we grew up and loved, but for god sakes the last thing we need is another white robed Storm shadow or Blacked out snake eyes. 36 years of trying to keep it the same. To hell with that. Reinvented and modern is the future, and what we desperately NEED. Hasbro is trying to bridge a gap between the old collectors and potential new ones.
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03-13-2021, 03:50 PM | #149 |
He Who Remains
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Well, lord knows Hasbro tried many times, and failed.
Reinvent too much, and us aging old men just say "nope" and opt out. Besides, GI Joe without dueling ninjas in black and white just isn't GI Joe. May as well get into Fortnite or Call of Duty or whatever the young whippersnappers are up to. Over the last 20 years, if it didn't "feel" like ARAH Joe to me, I ignored it, and I know I wasn't alone. I think when the last of Gen X-ers stop spending money on the brand, the brand dies. How many 1960s collectors are still out there buying stuff? And more importantly, how many young people have latched on to 1960s Joes and collect them in their place? If the answer is "none"....then 12 inch Joes are gonna be worthless in about 20 years. The ones that haven't decayed may go to toy museums or something. I disagree with a bunch of other stuff you said... but it isn't worth getting into. At least I know where you're coming from when I see your comments in the future.
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06-22-2021, 03:18 AM | #150 |
Zarana & Zandar
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With the release of GI Joe ARAH #283, now is an excellent time to bring a Zarana & Zandar 2-pack into development.
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