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12-25-2020, 11:52 PM | #11 |
Cobra Soldier
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I think the art, and the artist’s interpretations of events/characters/places, is just as important as the story itself. An artist (or penciled and inker) that doesn’t reference the history of the lore can detract from the story. I realize different artists have different styles, and there will always be variations from one to the other.
But, my attention to the plot is easily distracted by sloppy pencils and I attention to detail. It draws my focus and negatively impacts the narrative in my mind’s eye. The art in 277 is a unique style, but as others have said isn’t Joe. Before reading this, I re-read issues 199 and 200. In those issues, the Quonset huts above the PIT are practically destroyed, but at the end of 277, they look perfect. Maybe it’s my OCD, but details like that bug me. I think the biggest example of art taking away from even a halfway decent story is back in the Marvel run issue #69 (I think if memory serves correct) with Tony Salmons penciling. That art was rough. Going from the like of Whigham and Wagner to THAT art really cheesed me off. I look back at the issue with the plant spores that covered the Joe’s vehicles—odd plot, but Whigham’s pencils sold me. |
12-28-2020, 09:53 PM | #12 |
Cobra Viper
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: San Diego
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I thought the issue was middle of the road, but I think I’m also missing something by not having read issue 200. I liked the spotlight on a lesser known Joe, but I don’t feel like a really learned anything about him or that he had an arc; maybe we saw the loyalty between Law & Order, but that didn’t really move me.
I didn’t mind the art, but I did like seeing the Cobras and their specialties—I do wish we saw a little more personality in them though. I love when we see a cobra trooper who joined because of the dental plan, complains about the chow-hall food, or talks about wanting to be a strato-viper or something. Anyway, these untold stories have gotten me interested in going back and catching up on the Hama issues I missed. |
01-13-2021, 02:31 PM | #13 |
Iron Grenadier
Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: United States
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I think the art, and the artist’s interpretations of events/characters/places, is just as important as the story itself. An artist (or penciled and inker) that doesn’t reference the history of the lore can detract from the story. I realize different artists have different styles, and there will always be variations from one to the other.
But, my attention to the plot is easily distracted by sloppy pencils and I attention to detail. It draws my focus and negatively impacts the narrative in my mind’s eye. The art in 277 is a unique style, but as others have said isn’t Joe. Before reading this, I re-read issues 199 and 200. In those issues, the Quonset huts above the PIT are practically destroyed, but at the end of 277, they look perfect. Maybe it’s my OCD, but details like that bug me. I think the biggest example of art taking away from even a halfway decent story is back in the Marvel run issue #69 (I think if memory serves correct) with Tony Salmons penciling. That art was rough. Going from the like of Whigham and Wagner to THAT art really cheesed me off. I look back at the issue with the plant spores that covered the Joe’s vehicles—odd plot, but Whigham’s pencils sold me. |
01-19-2021, 07:10 PM | #14 |
Bridge Layer Driver
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I think the opening editorial box is slightly incorrect:
"The events of this story take place during the latter half of GI Joe: ARAH #200" I think this was actually set sometime in issue 198 or 199, not 200. In 198 and 199, Snake-Eyes, Scarlett and Falcon were deep inside the Pit and slowly taking out Cobra infiltrators. I'm not sure if the quonset huts were still standing in 198 or 199.
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02-01-2021, 03:36 PM | #15 |
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I feel like I would have liked the story a bit more if the art was better. It didn't grab me. it didn't make me feel intense. One major thing is for it to be in the tunnel/ sewers. the way it was colored just seemed so bright and cherry.
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02-04-2021, 12:43 PM | #16 |
Lurk Ness Monster
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In my latest round of catching up: I liked 276 better than 277, but both are light years ahead of blue ninjas, brainwave scanners, attack the Pit-attack Springfield tug o' war, and Fake Eyes.
Nobody's mentioned this issue's editing error: the Law figure's head sculpt was based on Kirk Bozigian; not his file name. Poor Christopher Lavigne doesn't even remember his own name and is, for some reason, talking about dearly departed Heavy Metal and his mother...
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02-05-2021, 05:45 PM | #17 |
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02-17-2021, 12:29 PM | #18 |
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02-18-2021, 06:01 PM | #19 |
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I knew the story about the head sculpt, saw the name "Kirk Bozigian" in print, and took it as fact. Didn't even bother to check the file card. So yeah, call Tunnel Rat "Larry" and Leatherneck "Ron Rudat"!
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02-18-2021, 07:58 PM | #20 |
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Between that and all the dead returning to life (sans explanation), I concur wholeheartedly!
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