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03-25-2020, 03:49 AM | #101 |
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And while thats a perfectly valid way to think, its also very American. i wont speak for otehr international members, but I know that Iam just sort of used to an America-centric view to our media and pop culture. Australia is actually a pretty 3 way tie with America, British and Chinese cultures mixed together fairly evenly.
Hey it never stopped me buying GI Joe, and there are characters I would NEVER consider anything but American (The majority in fact), but changing the name wouldn't hurt the licence outside of the states, I assure you. |
03-25-2020, 04:10 AM | #102 |
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Like the 'War Toys' argument being full of shit, I really think the 'American' argument is full of shit. I get it, I'm an international fan so I do get the logic behind it. However, I think people overestimate how much people loath America that much like people overestimate how many people don't buy 'war toys' for their kids.
You have to remember, in many locations where Action Force was used, they shifted over to GI Joe anyway. A lot of Joe's problem has been that the media since Sunbow being shit and there simply isn't enough of it. Had the New Mold era had a cartoon that made an impact instead of the films and the live action movies not been shit, things would probably be different now. A similar argument can be made for Sigma Six, which didn't even really get an international release. GI Joe only became notable again, the 25th line, because of nostalgia for an era where Sunbow was current. I think that says a lot about the brand and the quality of it' after Sunbow. Comic might be beloved by the fans, but it's not the culturally relevant version of the series. |
03-25-2020, 10:39 AM | #103 |
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Nope, ARAH here. We occasionally got in one or two things labels Action Force, but 99% was ARAH.
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03-25-2020, 10:51 AM | #104 |
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Also in Australia we never got the cartoon. We had the Toy and the comics, and even those we didnt have from the start.
The first toys were in around 1987 (I was 8). We got were a mix of some late 85 stuff and 86. The Twins, AWE Striker, SNowcat, stuff like that. But then 86/87 were the first real Joes I remember, and my first Joe was Fast Draw. But characters like Flint, Duke, Snake Eyes and Lady Jaye meant nothing to me at first, because I didnt have toys of them, so I didnt know who they were. By the time i got my first Joe comic in 1989 (Issue #86), My joe-verse was built off the file cards and my imagination. And mostly my imagination TBH. I saw the cartoon for the first time in late 1988 on a trip to Disneyland, and I only saw a couple of episodes (I know one was the Joes sneaking into a temple that had an amusement park inside, or something. Bazooka and Dusty were lead characters i think.) On that trip I got Tiger Force characters, which is how I first owned a Flint figure. He then became 2IC to General Hawk in my Joe-Verse. DUke was just another Joe. It would be a year later I would first get a Snake Eyes, the one with the silver knives on his chest He was a secondary ninja to Storm Shadow, who was always a Joe to me as a kid because the Cobra one had never come out down here.
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03-25-2020, 12:33 PM | #105 |
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Also in Australia we never got the cartoon. We had the Toy and the comics, and even those we didnt have from the start.
The first toys were in around 1987 (I was 8). We got were a mix of some late 85 stuff and 86. The Twins, AWE Striker, SNowcat, stuff like that. But then 86/87 were the first real Joes I remember, and my first Joe was Fast Draw. But characters like Flint, Duke, Snake Eyes and Lady Jaye meant nothing to me at first, because I didnt have toys of them, so I didnt know who they were. By the time i got my first Joe comic in 1989 (Issue #86), My joe-verse was built off the file cards and my imagination. And mostly my imagination TBH. I saw the cartoon for the first time in late 1988 on a trip to Disneyland, and I only saw a couple of episodes (I know one was the Joes sneaking into a temple that had an amusement park inside, or something. Bazooka and Dusty were lead characters i think.) On that trip I got Tiger Force characters, which is how I first owned a Flint figure. He then became 2IC to General Hawk in my Joe-Verse. DUke was just another Joe. It would be a year later I would first get a Snake Eyes, the one with the silver knives on his chest He was a secondary ninja to Storm Shadow, who was always a Joe to me as a kid because the Cobra one had never come out down here. |
03-25-2020, 06:53 PM | #106 |
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I am fairly sure the CGI Movies aired here on Foxtel, but Sigma Six never did. |
03-25-2020, 08:28 PM | #107 |
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03-25-2020, 08:29 PM | #108 |
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03-25-2020, 08:39 PM | #109 |
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The Joe's started bringing in international members long before the movies. In a day when a kid might be in a dino hunting game clan with members from Indonesia or Germany, or a toy forum with someone from Brazilit makes more sense than the 80's Reagan era American Heroes.
Plus if they do one in Iranian colors they can justify keeping the Skystriker. |
03-25-2020, 08:56 PM | #110 |
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