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07-11-2008, 02:09 PM | #31 |
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07-11-2008, 02:33 PM | #32 |
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Here is some stuff to chew on .... BUT I HOPE THIS THREAD
This is from yojoe.com First, the list of the obvious vehicles, and their real-world counter-parts: *although the toys would be really poor representations of the real-world models, these observations are based from all the styling, functional, and practical cues that line up amidst fact and fantasy. VAMP - Lamborghini Cheetah. Modifications: Shortened wheel-base, bigger rectangle headlights, computer-sync anti-personnel gun, front engine, minor body details. ** More research data reveals that the VAMP was also heavily influenced by the FMC XR-311. Note the fender colors and pattern on the wheel mags on the illustration. The Cheetah itself was also designed in favor of the looks of this vehicle. RAM - Honda CB 450 "Hawk". Mods: Vulcan 20mm sidecar, gunner's cowling (over what could have been handlebars suitable for driving and gunning simultaneously), 6-star mags. Note: If not for this usage of the RAM mold, I would not have known to look for motorcycles with the name "hawk" in them, which lead me to the CB 450 through reverse-heritage searching. Mounting a gun on a motorcycle is too generic of an operation, so the model of motorcycle and gun are important here. Skystriker - Grumman F-14 Tomcat. Mods: Possible higher flight ceiling, weapon configuration and carrying capacity, nose cannon moved to top (but how?). AWE Striker - Chenowth FAV. Mods: Removed rear gunner position; added top-mounted TOW with remote targeting device, bigger tires, rear fenders, engine cover. Rattler - Fairchild-Republic A-10 Thunderbolt II. Mods: Main engines relocated to tilted wings for VTOL capabilities, a third engine added to the tail section, slanted tail stabilizers, dorsal-mounted gunner station, spotlights. Other influences: North American B-25. Dragonfly - Bell AH-1 Cobra. Mods: Tow hook, NOTOR (No Tail Rotor system), side-mounted 160mm cannon (unrealistic caliber), unrealistic pilot /co-pilot position swap, unrealistic pilot gun (position and caliber), quad exhaust (this was not intended to be a Super-Cobra). Chin turret config is standard. Storm Eagle - Northrop/McDonnell Douglas YF-23. Mods: Nothing significant. The missiles are mounted outside of the hull on the toy. This may simply be due to size and cost limitations. Liquidator - Saab 35 Draken. Mods: Nothing significant. Ghoststriker X-16 - Lockheed Martin F-16. Mods: Just the usual landing-gear-popping-out-of-the-turbofan syndrome. Hammer - AM General HMMWV. Mods: severely customized main body, unusual weapon arrangement and selection. It's fun to note that this toy's name gets inspiration from the name of the civilian version of the vehicle - 'Hummer'. Warthog AIFV - FMC Corporation AAV-7A1. Mods: Anti-personnel weaponry, including two top-mounted anti-infantry missiles. APC - Sisu Auto XA-180. Mods: roof converted to soft top, gun turret moved forward, underwater access doors added, more passenger seating available. Note: The GI Joe APC may have had influences from other Sisu APCs and possibly from other APCs in general. All wheeled APCs are very similar in styling, but the subtle nuances of the nose and lower hull make the XA-180 the winner. Moreover, the XA-180 hit the scenes at exactly the same time as the GI Joe APC, which further drives the point home. Mauler MBT - AAI RDF/LT. Mods: Lengthened, widened, extra pair of ground wheels added, cannon caliber increased to 125mm (but this is more likely to be the length of the shell, rather than the diameter), various computer components, engine supercharger vents. Note: This one was hard to find any information on. For the longest time, I thought the Mauler was a prototype of the M1 (or M1A1, M1A2) Abrams. Upon discovering the RDF/LT, the toy is actually more to scale as such than it would have been if comparing it to the Abrams. Consequentially, it doesn't qualify to have the "MBT" moniker any more, but at least it can be carried by a Tomahawk. ____________________________________________ The not-so-obvious and inspired vehicles: MOBAT - As best I can guess, it looks like a cross between a MBT70 and a Japanese Type-74. The styling and external features are very Japanese-armor-looking, for sure. Maggot - UDES XX20 and possibly the BvS 10. The two components' positions are swapped, but the concept is the same. UPDATE: The Maggot design seems like it could also have been inspired by any Self-propelled Artillery, and then split up like the UDES XX20. HAVOC - the 'A' in HAVOC stands for Articulated. Taking that into consideration and giving it an overall look, it could have originally developed from the same influences as the Maggot. It could also have very well been derived from some real-life Snow Cat vehicles. Snow Cat - Ironically, this is mostly a unique vehicle, as far as I can tell. It looks more like a 10-wheeler with treads, than a real half-track. Moray - Is probably meant to be a cross between a PT Boat and a Cigarette Boat. Thunder Machine - Uses the nose of a '78 Firebird Trans-Am. Night Raven - This is heavily inspired by the Lockheed SR-71 Blackbird. Under careful scrutiny, one can easily spot the physical design differences, yet still affirm the influence. There was also a fictional MiG 31 Firefox (not to be confused with the real-life MiG 31 Foxhound). The styling of the Raven more closely resembles the Firefox, but the actual wing/engine configuration does not. X30 Conquest - This may have been an attempt to make the successor of the real-life Grumman X29 concept, which was based off of the F-16 Falcon platform. The X30 Conquest looks as though it were intended to be based off the F/A-18 Hornet platform, using and improving upon the same forward-swept wing design principles as the X29. Polar Battle Bear - Raider Snowmobiles were just one of a few companies that would make twin-track sleds. The PBB was probably heavily inspired by Raider's models, and then fitted with military hardware. Tomahawk - It is likely meant to be a mating of the Boeing CH-47 Chinook and the Eurocopter Super Puma. It also has heavy ordinance, which is unusual for a carrier helo. Thunderclap - heavily influenced by Atomic Annie. The tractors and some other details are enough of a difference to put it into this category. Bridgelayer - There are real world examples of this vehicle having been used throughout the latter half of the 1900's. The Soviet T-55 and T-72 have both been fitted with the unfolding bridge, and recently the US M60A1 has been designed for just that purpose. It is my opinion, however, that the base was inspired by the UDES 21 chassis. I don't read Russian, or whatever that is, so I can't tell if the page is about the gun or the chassis. USS Flagg - Nimitz-class US Aircraft Carrier. Due to the grossly inaccurate scale of the toy, this is just an educated guess. The only other option would be a Midway-class USAC. The Nimitz-class is big enough to fit a suitable amount of F-14s on the deck and on the service level. The Midway-class will hold a few, but probably a negligible amount. In this editor's opinion, however, a Nimitz-sized AC for the GI Joes is a little over-the-top. Killer WHALE - The Griffon 470TD has a huge influence on the WHALE's design. The GI Joe hovercraft has a rear driver position added to the topside, and the front compartment has been converted to accommodate personnel or cargo, which are loaded from the front. The WHALE is attempting to do with the smaller 470TD proportions what the hovercraft on this page demonstrates on a larger scale, and by my accounts it succeeds in that fusion. Mamba - This uses a real-world type of rotary system called intermeshing rotors. Because the rotors are going in opposite directions of one another, there is no need for a tail rotor to counter the turning effect of traditional single-rotor helos. At this point, it is uncertain what influenced the inclusion of the deployable side-craft. Buzz Boar - There have been motorized vehicles called monowheels for decades, now, but the Buzz Boar also digs and burrows into the ground. The idea of an unbraced wheel doing this on its own is a little more far-fetched than many other strange GI Joe concepts, but it has a really cool practical value. The idea of using one for military purposes and covering it up may have come from this Popular Science article. This researcher would go so far as to say that even the concept of burrowing came from this article. The Buzz Boar designers probably saw that the vehicle's poles dig into the ground like ski poles, and took it to an extreme level of the whole rig digging into the ground. Manta - This is basically a modified windsurf board, with a side-pontoon for carrying a torpedo and a machine gun on the handlebar. Phantom F-19 - There are two completely different design versions of the real-world F-19, and both of them are conceptual. The GI Joe jet is based on the more popularly known version of the two. Other than GI Joe, the only known incarnations of these craft are model kits. Skystorm - Lacking any other influences for its futuristic styling, the Skystorm at least draws functional design cues from the Sikorsky S-72, a real-life X-wing chopper that can also fly like a jet, without the use of the main rotor for lift. Swamp Smasher - This might be a stretch, but considering the Landmaster was created about a decade before the Swamp Smasher, there is at least some influence transpiring. It may also be patterned after lunar and extra-terrestrial rover concept designs. Chameleon - The idea of this vehicle is not as outrageous as one might think, though the design is bit on the impractical side. The Wetbike Tomcat was introduced in 1978 and was considered something for advanced riders. This was before the term "personal watercraft" was used to identify the category. As you can see, the Wetbike has a pair of skis, which basically hydroplane the vehicle at speed. When still, the vehicle lowers into the water. The Chameleon's functional concept is a tad different. There is a small turbofan jet mounted under the chassis and raised from the skis, rather than a water jet sitting on the water. It's as if the bike were expected to float on its skis at all times. Well, they would have to be big wooden skis in order to pull that off. What makes the two connected has to be the fact that there is steering which manipulates two (or two pairs of) surfaces making water contact. Water Moccasin - It seems like this is an original design. However, the concept of an airboat is not far-fetched at all. I suspect the designers added the split in the front of the boat so that the driver can see. A traditional airboat would have the driver sitting about where the Water Moccasin's turret is, while passengers and/or crew would be in the front, under the driver's view, theater-seating-style. _____________________________________________ Stationary and Remote-Controlled Equipment: The stationary weapons in GI Joe are puzzling. They are often easy to identify, but usually discovered to be based on older weapons. Often these older weapons might be retro-fitted with modern computer systems for targeting and automatic firing capacity or whatnot. GI Joe is known for its hi-tech and alternative equipment, but then here are a lot of antiquated and traditional style weapons. Whether they are useful in a real battle scenario or not is up for debate. Mountain Howitzer - US M101A1 Howitzer. WWII era howitzer that may have been still very useful in the 1980's. FLAK - perhaps influenced most by the German 88mm Anti-Aircraft FlaK. Although the main construction seems very modernized, the overall look is the same. There is a chair placed on this one, as well as the obligatory GI Joe computer system upgrade. Whirlwind - For the life of me, I cannot find the image, but there was a single gun system version of this machine in real life. The image was pretty good quality, too. I can't remember what the name designation was, either. Pretty much the only differences are the extra M61 and a computer system. On the original machine, the single M61 was centered in front of the gunner. MMS - is a MIM-23 HAWK. On the MIM-23, the trailer is actually a cart that the system can be removed from. Later, a PAC/RAT-ish treaded vehicle could automate the loading of the missiles and/or tow the cart. The robotic vehicle was controlled remotely by a near-by crewman. PAC/RAT (missiles) - The WWII era Borgward Automotive Goliath Tracked Mine appears to have some serious influence on the chassis of the Missile PAC/RAT.
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07-11-2008, 03:05 PM | #33 |
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You can add the patroit grizzley to the list also.
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07-11-2008, 06:57 PM | #34 |
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Damn, thanks Tolan!!!
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12-16-2008, 02:36 PM | #35 |
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Dude, that's my YoJoe.com post. You should read it from that site. There is a discussion and everything. It still gets updated and discussed frequently.
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12-16-2008, 02:50 PM | #36 |
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12-16-2008, 06:14 PM | #37 |
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The J.U.M.P. was loosely based on a Bell Labs Rocketbelt(Jetpack) Except it shot out a stream of Superheated Mist not Fire, and it's flight time was just under 21 seconds...sucks they never got that to work.
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12-17-2008, 02:40 AM | #38 |
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Oh, and there's a phrase for "just under 21 seconds"; it's called "20 seconds." LOL I'm just messing with ya. @Delta: What is an og? Are you referring to my CGI post? It's water under the bridge, but I don't yet feel comfortable linking between this site and others, or vice versa. Just go there and look at my profile, you should be able to find it quite easily under "Threads started by user." |
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this is the raddest thread EVER!
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12-17-2008, 03:12 AM | #40 |
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Oh, by the way, the X-29 wasn't based on the F-16. It was based on the F-20 Tigershark (also called the F-5F or G if I remember right). The problem was that the Tigershark was a little ahead of it's time. Although, I still love the X-29A.
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