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08-12-2013, 07:47 AM | #51 |
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What's that smell?
Oh yeah...bullshit. Last edited by Jmacq1; 08-12-2013 at 07:53 AM.. |
08-13-2013, 01:01 PM | #52 |
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I genuinely dont think Bale NEEDS Batman yknow?the man has a fairly solid career as it is......
end of the day?IF Bale returns it wont make or break anything for me.personally I think they are better off moving away from Bale and the man has said plenty of times that he done. it just doesnt sound like he wants to be Batman again to me. |
02-10-2014, 08:12 AM | #53 |
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Netflix has Justice League and Justice League: Unlimited, plus a crapload of the Justice League movies. I've been working my way through JLU (I missed it 1st time around) and it's very good indeed.
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02-10-2014, 05:30 PM | #54 |
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Not the first 2 seasons though aside from Starcrossed(WW steals the show) I found them eminently forgettable.........Seasons 3 is where its changed to JLU from JL to reflect the expanded roster..... and fuck me its just gold. The Cadmus Story and its twist? awesome. and the Series Finale in Season 4?just epic. I managed to forgive them early on for replacing Kyle Rayner(the GL in the comics at the time) with Stewart who bored me to tears but it was a small complaint. |
02-10-2014, 08:58 PM | #55 |
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JLU is my 2nd favourite Timmverse toon......and yeah its superb.
Not the first 2 seasons though aside from Starcrossed(WW steals the show) I found them eminently forgettable.........Seasons 3 is where its changed to JLU from JL to reflect the expanded roster..... and fuck me its just gold. The Cadmus Story and its twist? awesome. and the Series Finale in Season 4?just epic. I managed to forgive them early on for replacing Kyle Rayner(the GL in the comics at the time) with Stewart who bored me to tears but it was a small complaint. For those worried, BTW, Netflix lists only TWO Seasons of JLU, not three. For whatever reason, Seasons 1 and 2 are listed as a single season, even though - as far as I can tell - they were originally considered separate seasons. I'll be moving on to Batman: The Brave and the Bold next, I think. I just hope Young Justice shows up on there soon, too.
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03-04-2014, 05:57 PM | #56 |
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I've said it before and I'll say it again, I'd rather have an all cgi Justice League movie, rather than a live action one. This new trailer for "Arkham Knight" just cements that: Batman: Arkham Knight Video Game Announced! - ComingSoon.net
Yes, you'd lose the magic of a great performance, like Robert Downey Jr. in Iron Man. But you'd get a completely comic accurate look and anything would be possible in the movie. Plus, you wouldn't have to worry about the actors getting too old. It's not as if it's cartoonish. That trailer looks like it takes the best things from every Batman film and incorporates them all into one. |
03-10-2014, 07:59 PM | #57 |
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a Justice League Movie?so unlikely its hard to believe it will ever happen.....even moreso it will NEVER beat the way Avengers was done.and Avengers kicked Spider Man 2 ass all over the planet.Raimis penchant to make all his Villians basically good people RUINED Doc Ock.
I also enjoyed Avengers more than Dark Knight.and thats coming from a huge Batmark Im also not "out of my fucking mind". heres the main reasons JL is unlikely.despite the MASSIVE advantage DC/WB have over everyone else. 1)DCs internal structure is a nightmare.a series of departments feuding over character use.Bruce Timm had this nightmare several times on JLU and so did the producers of Smallville/The Batman.Timm wasnt allowed use Aquaman at ALL in JLU season 4 because he MIGHT get his own show on CW....confused?I know I was.The Batman makers were not allowed use Scarecrow or Ras because of Batman Begins?you would think the more exposure the better no?and what about all the times Smallville wanted to feature Diana or Bruce Wayne?vetoed by the respective depts that control the characters with DC/WB media division 2)DC/WB have NO interest in WW,Aquaman or MM.see aborted TV pilots for their level of interest in the first two.Joss Whedon even said they were impossible to reason with concerning a WW movie.also note the "effort"that was put into the WW and Aquaman tv shows.WB have their own network for Fuck sake.....and they still couldnt get behind these 2. 3)they actually thought the bag of crap Miller pitched them a few years ago was a good idea........that shook me to the core of my person that ANYONE at WB thought that could work. 4)GL was the perfect jumping on point for this franchise(and many thought it was originally supposed to be)but they have said repeatedly they wont follow MS(brilliance)formula.why?who can say.it makes no sense to anyone except them.if the formula works and they get a top all time 5 grossing film who gives one chocolate fuck who they copied? 5)once it isnt Batman-they dont care.even Superman doesnt make them smile.Superman Returns had a GREAT opening weekend but it was viewed as a dissapointment by the suits........and if MOS doesnt have a effin epic opening weekend its likelyness to continue will be in serious doubt.....even Nolan wont be able to save it if it doesnt perform. 6)The Dark Knight has given DC/WB furiously unrealistic expectations.they need to realise that this movie had tons going for it aside from Nolans brilliance.I hope DKR box office is healthy enough to please them. 7)where is the Flash movie?I tell ya where it is-shelved in development hell because GL didnt have a 70 mill + opening weekend....... I could continue but wont.its too devastating for me as a DC fan to list their INCREDIBLE handicap getting their people on the big screen. Ive always been a 50/50 guy concerning DC/Marvel.no doubt whos winning the battle at the moment on the big screen. DC comics are a mess, 'cause they never had a professional figure Marvel Comics created ages ago... the Editor-in-Chief! This guy controls all continuity issues generated by decades of stories; Marvel needs him very bad, because Marvel Universe is rarely rebooted, its time flow 3/4 times slower than ours. However, for the Avengers movies (the Marvel Movies phase 1) Marvel Comics finally decided, after almost 10 years of leaving its movies' control to Hollywood studios, they should create Marvel Studios to exercite a rigid control on their stuff. Basically, Marvel Studios is the cinema version of an Editor-in-Chief. DC Comics never worried about continuity very much, they reboot DC Universe almost every decade; but this genertes much confusion. For example, the New 52 reboot sees Batman fighting his war against crime, while during "Death in the Family" his biological son Damian gets killed, leaving him devastated! After this, a new arc begins taking place during his early days as Dark Knight (Zero Year)! Meanwhile, on Catwoman, Selina Kyle takes care of her business and occasionally flirts and has sex with the Bat! Two totally different views of the character, 'cause they are written by 2 writers who know nothing about the other's work. When DC was acquired by Time Warner, Warner Bros became the referent for DC movie comics; however, DC still leaves much autonomy to Warner and writers; i say they should take an stronger grip on their chars, so DC.. create a DC Movies Studio or something like that... About little known chars or not very done heroes, remember it's quite difficult build a story and draw a good portrait of a superhero; here there's another difference between Marvel and DC; marvel invented the "superhero equals superproblems" formula, where DC created modern miths; Avengers and the X-Men saga are the sons of this thought; during 80s and 90s that didn't work, now it does; i believe the real change was in the audience; The Dark Knight and Man of Steel took this message and had a great reception. However, not every char can work at cinema; that's why DC worked on TV shows: the Flash 90s show, Arrow, a new Flash trying reboot (they even put Barry Allen in Arrow working with Oliver Queen, and TV news often talk about a new particle accelerator in Central City), the failed Wonder Woman pilot (where she didn't fly, 'cause producers want her a bit more human) and so on.. Green Lantern performed good, but under Warner expectations; lets admit, for some people it's just a question of money! Unfortunately... it went as it went... and now further projects are in hold (that's the better chance) Nolan's Dark Knight trilogy was almost out of comic book movies, a drama than comics. Now DC must reboot him again before thinking a crossover movie; remember Marvel spend a decade designing the Avengers initiative, building situations, behavious, origins, changes of characteristics.. to assemble different guys into a team; i'll cite Phil Coulson: they need something to be united. Justice League is no different; read the New 52 Justice League arc; there are 3 leagues, people! 3 leagues, to appeal many tastes: Justice League is like the classic comic Avengers, Justice League of America sounds more as the Marvel Ultimates, Justice League Dark works on supernatural; DC spend 2 years to unite them into the "FOREVER EVIL" crossover whatever DC does, it won't be out before some years, so relax and pray, or despair, what you prefer... About Batman and other chars, the trouble is Bruce Wayne is an average man: no powers, no armors, no alien origins, no godlike legacy... maybe that's the characteristic it makes him appealing to audience; the others usually have something more; Arrow was saved by his humanity, and also by using many Bat-stereotypes: good-to-nothing, rebel sidekick, a mysterious past, double life, he favorites dark, gadgets, the League of Assassins (yeah, even this), a former girlfriend turned attorney-at-law... The only way a super powered hero can conquer simpathy is being humble; Marvel's Spiderman is this way from his first steps in 1962, and watch where he arrived last note: Arrow is developed, betwwen others, by Marc Guggenheim, a professional of comics; i say comic book movies should always be written by comics writers, just to be sure... Hollywood has an odd way to mess with good premises; Nolan, Miller, Snyder, Burton, Raimi, Singer, all of them took control of shooting and/or writing to leave their signs on their works Which shit did you mean about Miller? he made good stuff to me, but actually you did not tell the story you talked about... Last edited by omegamagnus; 03-10-2014 at 08:05 PM.. Reason: adding |
03-10-2014, 10:28 PM | #58 |
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OK, let's start from the very begin!
DC comics are a mess, 'cause they never had a professional figure Marvel Comics created ages ago... the Editor-in-Chief! This guy controls all continuity issues generated by decades of stories; Marvel needs him very bad, because Marvel Universe is rarely rebooted, its time flow 3/4 times slower than ours. However, for the Avengers movies (the Marvel Movies phase 1) Marvel Comics finally decided, after almost 10 years of leaving its movies' control to Hollywood studios, they should create Marvel Studios to exercite a rigid control on their stuff. Basically, Marvel Studios is the cinema version of an Editor-in-Chief. DC Comics never worried about continuity very much, they reboot DC Universe almost every decade; but this genertes much confusion. For example, the New 52 reboot sees Batman fighting his war against crime, while during "Death in the Family" his biological son Damian gets killed, leaving him devastated! After this, a new arc begins taking place during his early days as Dark Knight (Zero Year)! Meanwhile, on Catwoman, Selina Kyle takes care of her business and occasionally flirts and has sex with the Bat! Two totally different views of the character, 'cause they are written by 2 writers who know nothing about the other's work. When DC was acquired by Time Warner, Warner Bros became the referent for DC movie comics; however, DC still leaves much autonomy to Warner and writers; i say they should take an stronger grip on their chars, so DC.. create a DC Movies Studio or something like that... About little known chars or not very done heroes, remember it's quite difficult build a story and draw a good portrait of a superhero; here there's another difference between Marvel and DC; marvel invented the "superhero equals superproblems" formula, where DC created modern miths; Avengers and the X-Men saga are the sons of this thought; during 80s and 90s that didn't work, now it does; i believe the real change was in the audience; The Dark Knight and Man of Steel took this message and had a great reception. However, not every char can work at cinema; that's why DC worked on TV shows: the Flash 90s show, Arrow, a new Flash trying reboot (they even put Barry Allen in Arrow working with Oliver Queen, and TV news often talk about a new particle accelerator in Central City), the failed Wonder Woman pilot (where she didn't fly, 'cause producers want her a bit more human) and so on.. Green Lantern performed good, but under Warner expectations; lets admit, for some people it's just a question of money! Unfortunately... it went as it went... and now further projects are in hold (that's the better chance) Nolan's Dark Knight trilogy was almost out of comic book movies, a drama than comics. Now DC must reboot him again before thinking a crossover movie; remember Marvel spend a decade designing the Avengers initiative, building situations, behavious, origins, changes of characteristics.. to assemble different guys into a team; i'll cite Phil Coulson: they need something to be united. Justice League is no different; read the New 52 Justice League arc; there are 3 leagues, people! 3 leagues, to appeal many tastes: Justice League is like the classic comic Avengers, Justice League of America sounds more as the Marvel Ultimates, Justice League Dark works on supernatural; DC spend 2 years to unite them into the "FOREVER EVIL" crossover whatever DC does, it won't be out before some years, so relax and pray, or despair, what you prefer... About Batman and other chars, the trouble is Bruce Wayne is an average man: no powers, no armors, no alien origins, no godlike legacy... maybe that's the characteristic it makes him appealing to audience; the others usually have something more; Arrow was saved by his humanity, and also by using many Bat-stereotypes: good-to-nothing, rebel sidekick, a mysterious past, double life, he favorites dark, gadgets, the League of Assassins (yeah, even this), a former girlfriend turned attorney-at-law... The only way a super powered hero can conquer simpathy is being humble; Marvel's Spiderman is this way from his first steps in 1962, and watch where he arrived last note: Arrow is developed, betwwen others, by Marc Guggenheim, a professional of comics; i say comic book movies should always be written by comics writers, just to be sure... Hollywood has an odd way to mess with good premises; Nolan, Miller, Snyder, Burton, Raimi, Singer, all of them took control of shooting and/or writing to leave their signs on their works Which shit did you mean about Miller? he made good stuff to me, but actually you did not tell the story you talked about... Wow.......good for you. when I spoke about Miller I was referring to his abandoned JLA project from a few years ago |
03-10-2014, 10:51 PM | #59 |
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last note: Arrow is developed, betwwen others, by Marc Guggenheim, a professional of comics; i say comic book movies should always be written by comics writers, just to be sure... Hollywood has an odd way to mess with good premises; Nolan, Miller, Snyder, Burton, Raimi, Singer, all of them took control of shooting and/or writing to leave their signs on their works.
I do somewhat agree with that. It's great to see a faithful translation of a character and story on screen. DC has been doing a good job of that with their animated DVD releases. There's been some character changes to some older stories to feature some of the character they're promoting more now, but they've been good. The animated version of "The Dark Knight Returns" was excellent. But I count myself as a much bigger movie fan than I am a comic fan these days. So I'd rather see a talented director take liberties with a character to make a movie his own. I think Nolan and Snyder's movies are great. Burton made one great one and Raimi did two. I'd love to see what Tarantino or Ridley Scott could do with the right character. |
03-11-2014, 07:12 AM | #60 |
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Arrow is a great show........I have seen very few who don't enjoy it.
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