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03-12-2012, 04:50 PM | #351 |
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Note: Shepard can survive the ending. But only one of the endings.
I don't mind the decisions or even the outcomes of the ending(s). My biggest beef is that they offer no real sense of closure to the series. I had made peace with the idea that Shepard was likely to die in most, if not all, of the endings. I had accepted that some of the characters I really liked from ME1 and ME2 were likely to go out in a blaze of glory. But I expected Bioware would understand that we would want to see the fruits of our labors, both on the sense of "what happened to my crew?" and in the sense of "what kind of galaxy results from my decisions?" Oh, and the Asari know how to build new Mass relays, I believe. Pretty sure I recall that being mentioned somewhere, though it may have been in a novel or comic as opposed to the games. |
03-12-2012, 04:56 PM | #352 |
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Destroying the relays crippled their franchise...how in the hell can they pick up where they left off? What happened to all the races? What happened to my friends? Why was Joker in a mass relay!? hahaha
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It just doesn't make sense as to where they will take the series..they've crippled themselves.
And think of it like this- the only way that everyone would be almost completely screwed would be Destruction. With Synthesis, all species are at least partially organic or synthetic, meaning that they can possibly live much longer and accomplish much more in the same amount of time or less than previously. Rebuilding is still possible. With Control, the Reapers themselves are at the beck and call of Shepard. There's the distinct possibility that he would use them and their tech to rebuild the galactic infrastructure, and as mentioned before, they'd likely be used to ferry people, crews, and materiel in the meantime. Quote:
I grew up with this guys..I started these games at 14, and ended them at 19, for what seems like nothing now. That is the real let down.
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And all of the DLC planned will not pick up where the game left off...so why would anyone even buy it? It won't change the ending at all...hahaha
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03-12-2012, 04:57 PM | #353 |
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The M-37 Falcon is the absolute shit.
Max out a soldier for max weapon damage on adrenaline and concussion shots and load an ammo bonus. Then watch the bodies start burning, freezing, and flying.
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03-12-2012, 04:58 PM | #354 |
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Matriarch Aethiea (or however it's spelled- Liara's "Father") made the suggestion to the rest of the Asari government that they try to build their own relays. She mentions it if you talk to her in the bar on Illium in ME2.
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03-12-2012, 04:59 PM | #355 |
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I gave it to all my AR-capable squadmates. I like the sound it makes.
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03-12-2012, 05:09 PM | #356 |
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OK, now that most of us are done playing 1 time.
My problem with the ending isn't that Shepard can die, or does if you can't get enough assets (which it's hard to get 4000/5000 without multiplayer, and making hard renegade choices), my problem is that whoever went up that light elevator isn't Shepard. I want Bioware to tell their ending...if they want to push synthesis and transhumanism I'm fine with that. Give me something more logical than Shep giving in and not fighting/debating with some AI/God he met 3 minutes ago, and believing everything it says...That's just not Shepard. And the poor ending edits are just damn inexcusable to me... It doesn't have to be sunshine and lollipops and blue babies and building a house at the end. It can be blown up mass relays, and trillions dead. That's fine..... Some kind of proper epilogue and the Shepard personality shark jump need to be fixed somehow...
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03-12-2012, 06:08 PM | #357 |
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OK, now that most of us are done playing 1 time.
My problem with the ending isn't that Shepard can die, or does if you can't get enough assets (which it's hard to get 4000/5000 without multiplayer, and making hard renegade choices), my problem is that whoever went up that light elevator isn't Shepard. I want Bioware to tell their ending...if they want to push synthesis and transhumanism I'm fine with that. Give me something more logical than Shep giving in and not fighting/debating with some AI/God he met 3 minutes ago, and believing everything it says...That's just not Shepard. And the poor ending edits are just damn inexcusable to me... It doesn't have to be sunshine and lollipops and blue babies and building a house at the end. It can be blown up mass relays, and trillions dead. That's fine..... Some kind of proper epilogue and the Shepard personality shark jump need to be fixed somehow... So are you with those that believe that Shep was indoctrinated while he was speaking to the catalyst? I still haven't finished the game yet, but I've read all about the endings and I'll reserve judgement until I see it for myself. I just found out about Joker's family being killed, and I thought it was sad but I understood why it happened. I just find it hard to believe that they could give you a pretty good narrative about a family's demise, but then give us the players these three choices to end the of Shepard's story. |
03-12-2012, 06:23 PM | #358 |
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He could be indoctrinated...he has spent a bunch of time talking to the reapers, and he is in close contact with TIM......I suspect not actually. I can't imagine Bioware giving us an unfinished game unless it is there to foist and foil people illegally copying games, and the only way to get the actual ending is to register your game....that would be brilliant, but I can't see them doing that. It isn't logical unless you'd tell people that up front.
I personally think they had to rush the end to meet a target date and it is glitched, and the ending was just written in such a way that most people simply don't like aspects of it.
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03-12-2012, 06:46 PM | #359 |
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He could be indoctrinated...he has spent a bunch of time talking to the reapers, and he is in close contact with TIM......I suspect not actually. I can't imagine Bioware giving us an unfinished game unless it is there to foist and foil people illegally copying games, and the only way to get the actual ending is to register your game....that would be brilliant, but I can't see them doing that. It isn't logical unless you'd tell people that up front.
I personally think they had to rush the end to meet a target date and it is glitched, and the ending was just written in such a way that most people simply don't like aspects of it. Last edited by Iron Guru; 03-12-2012 at 06:50 PM.. |
03-12-2012, 07:14 PM | #360 |
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Yes, Drew wanted it to be about Dark energy...which is why you go to haestrom in ME2.... Drew left ME and now TOR because of lack of creative control. They basically scrapped his ending, and the new end may be collaborative, but i think it is Mac's ending.
My relationship with ME3 is that ...really...I think it is one of the most beautiful love letters ever written, and then when I get to the last sentence I realized it is actually a break up note.....
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