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hood | 398 | 86.71% | |
hair | 34 | 7.41% | |
other | 27 | 5.88% | |
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09-17-2008, 04:21 PM | #141 |
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GI Joe is, first and foremost, a toyline. Both the comic and the cartoon were created, basically, as advertisements to sell toys. With a very few exceptions, characters were conceived of and designed as action figures. This includes Zartan, as far as I'm aware. The toy Zartan was designed with a hood. Animators back then were known to make SEVERAL mistakes. It's quite obvious that the few instances (or was it just one?) when it was animated as hair is a mistake. Remember those episodes when Iceberg was animated as a white guy in a few scenes? Your whole argument could be used as a basis for Iceberg actually being white!
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another interesing question even though we agree that it is a hood in the comic continuity and on the toy, what purpose does a piece of burlap provide Zartan? If its to protect his skin from the accursed sunlight then why did he where a sleevless belly shirt, and how exactly does this tea cozy stay on his noggin? With topstick? glue? nanotech? bobby pins?
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Animation Errors people........it happens.....
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09-17-2008, 04:32 PM | #144 |
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The fact that characters in the cartoons were BASED on action figures, does not show that an artists intention was anything different than what was shown. Toy "canon" does not completely define a cartoon's "canon". Different universes bud, sorry. If toys were being translated directly to animation, then why is there no mention of Duke and Falcon being brothers on the filecards..or in the comics? Why does Bazooka's filecard not describe him as a bumbling unintelligent lumox? He seems to be described quite the opposite. Iceberg being white is a coloring mistake..that's a far cry from an artists intention of drawing actual hair. The drawer is not the same person who colors the pictures. |
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another interesing question even though we agree that it is a hood in the comic continuity and on the toy, what purpose does a piece of burlap provide Zartan? If its to protect his skin from the accursed sunlight then why did he where a sleevless belly shirt, and how exactly does this tea cozy stay on his nogging? With topstick? glue? nanotech? bobby pins?
practical reason...and this is a stretch...maybe because the sun shines directly down on the head, but not necessarily blaring down on his belly. |
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09-17-2008, 04:36 PM | #148 |
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One time it's mistakenly drawn as hair does not make it hair. The toys were the guide for the toy commercial (what some of you call a cartoon) The designers/animators would have been given the toys as a starting point to draw what the characters look like. The drawing of Zartan would have been of a guy with a hood on. The cheap animation means that if you don't know (from the toy) that he has a hood on, you would think it's hair. Some animator once drew it as hair (thanks Roadblock recall for the pic) ((i can imagine someone will report this error to the cartoon database so it can be listed in the errors section)) but that doesn't change the fact that the design and chacter key was based off a guy with a hood.
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it happens in a lot of cartoons that where animated overseas, large teams working on a series will make mistakes or add something in just for the fun of it. Go back and watch some g1 transformers, or thundercats. those too are especially loaded with 'em. and this even goes back further, There's an episode of the flintstones where the black triangles on freds suit are black circles for one or two frames. Now should i get a screen cap and post it on the internet and say OMG those triangles are really circles? no of course not, it's a mistake. they happen, and it's cool to find them and point them out. so long story short, It's a hood.
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.....and sometimes the artist didnt have the figure to go by unless it was the original 13......sometimes Artist have only a prototype to go by.......which isnt colored sometimes...so mistakes will happen....just like i said about Ironhide and Rachet....they didnt have the toy in front of them to go from.......
And pretty much when the new joes and cobras debuted on TV the Toys were already out...so kids could watch the Show then beg mom or dad to drive them to the store to get the new Character of the week.........which i recall that when the Eps for Arise Serpentor Arise were on in the afternoon when I got home from school they also had the Serpentor Commercial during the show........ |
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