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08-19-2010, 12:07 AM | #14091 |
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Well technically gliders are "fixed-wing aircraft". They're just powerless airplanes. You can solo a glider when you're 14 and get a license when you're 16. BR could have certainly gotten his glider rating and even single-engine private pilot's license when he was a civilian but the USAF could have also sent him to a Part 141 school to get these ratings for his "fixed-wing" training like they do for most of their pilots now. After ROTC my ex had to get her private license, which the govt paid for, before starting her military flight training in Miss. The FAA only requires 40 flight hours to get a private pilot license, though the national average is about 65. To fly a Learjet he would need a type rating, requiring a lot more time and training. All turbine-powered aircraft require type ratings.
That's really helpful info, but would the Air Force send an enlisted airman to Part 141 school? My brother did a similar program when he was in the Air Force... he went to Flight school at Moody AFB in Valdosta, GA. Before he "class" started, they sent him to a local civilian flight training program and he learned to fly a Sesna... I guess it's possible that the Joes could send him for "Type Training" to fly some aircraft like a Learjet. It would be crazy for them to send an enlisted man through regular military flight school, but they could opt to send him through more civilian flight training if it helped their mission capability level. It is interesting the flying a glider would qualify as a "fixed wing aircraft", but he flies more of a powered hang glider than a traditional glider.
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08-19-2010, 12:23 AM | #14092 |
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That's really helpful info, but would the Air Force send an enlisted airman to Part 141 school? My brother did a similar program when he was in the Air Force... he went to Flight school at Moody AFB in Valdosta, GA. Before he "class" started, they sent him to a local civilian flight training program and he learned to fly a Sesna...
I guess it's possible that the Joes could send him for "Type Training" to fly some aircraft like a Learjet. It would be crazy for them to send an enlisted man through regular military flight school, but they could opt to send him through more civilian flight training if it helped their mission capability level. It is interesting the flying a glider would qualify as a "fixed wing aircraft", but he flies more of a powered hang glider than a traditional glider. I don't see them, however, making him get a type rating. That sort of job could be easily given to a regularly trained and experienced jet pilot. If BR needs to get somewhere via a Learjet, there's no reason they can't have someone else piloting the aircraft and waiting around for him. Flying a Cessna is one thing but you don't want any joeblow jumping in a jet, no matter how small. Learjets are fast and have fantastic performance. One could easily "get away" from an inexperienced, low-time pilot. Fixed wing just means the airfoil doesn't move like the rotors on a helicopter or a balloon which has no airfoil. It has nothing do with power. There are motor gliders (see Motor glider - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia). Last edited by Tanksmasher; 08-19-2010 at 12:31 AM.. |
08-19-2010, 12:37 AM | #14093 |
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I guess I'm in the minority of liking Barrel-Roll as an Officer.
However that makes the card sort worthless. Since I doubt there are any Officers that are marksmanship instructors. But I'm more a purist and the card clearly states E-4. Him being a spotter is also a good role for him. I don't know enough about the 24th Special Tactics to see if he fits in with them. Like Zulu mentioned before and how he created Barrel-Roll was to have him as a Countersniper, which is one way the Air Force uses Snipers. That would be a good fit for him. To role in with Sky Patrol and seize an airbase or druglord's landing strip and hold it until reinforcements arrive. Personally, I like to thnk of him as a unique individual with a special set of skills uncommon in most soldiers. I view him as an officer that is set for promotion, which is why he isn't a Captain yet. But I thought I remember reading that his father was Air Force as well. So I figure they are playing up his level of dedication stemming from family tradition. He just seems like the ROTC sort of guy who went to school just to be an officer in the Air Force and fly planes. For whatever reason he is not a Fighter pilot, but maybe he never wanted to be one. Then I hit a snag, with him being a sniper and an officer. So I view him more as 31P3.
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08-19-2010, 01:02 AM | #14094 |
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Well that's the real conflict, Loose: making a pilot/officer a sniper seems to me to be a misallocation of military resources. But would be cool as hell, right!
Zulu is correct that USAF snipers are typically trained as countersnipers in their security teams. CPE (Close Precision Engagement) teams employ them for airbase security and EST (Emergency Service Teams) use them in the same manner as SWAT teams. Their snipers are closer to Police Force marksman/snipers than infantry snipers. I guess I see BR more as a 3P051B. Last edited by Tanksmasher; 08-19-2010 at 01:11 AM.. |
08-19-2010, 02:01 AM | #14095 |
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So what do you guys think about the POC Duke coming with a SAW(not sure if thet's what it is)? I think it's out of place with Duke, but this is why I'm asking.
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08-19-2010, 04:45 AM | #14096 |
IG85 - Mortarman
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I own this figure and I think the SAW fits with him pretty well. My only objection is that they gave it a 30-round magazine instead of a 200-round drum. The SAW was designed to take the same magazine as the M16 so that one could use those if belted ammunition was in short supply. But the mags run dry so damn quickly, it's not the best choice. Duke should have been given a 200-round drum on the weapon with a couple of spares sculpted onto the webgear or backpack.
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08-19-2010, 06:25 AM | #14097 |
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Speaking of the Stalls for one more minute, I just got my Hearts and Minds Interrogator/Deep-Six. It's a cool way of getting Blackout to join Cobra. It's cool they even included Interrogator and Blackout at all.
It refers to the Dad being "The Colonel" and being disappointed which is how Interrogator will break Thomas Stall. Although I can't tell what unit Blackout is coming from. Can't wait for the Skullbuster one. These Hearts and Minds aren't the greatest. Too short really. But they are kind of like extended file cards. Hey if anyone has that DDP list of Joe COmmand, is Barrel-Roll listed there? Damn right! It is cool as hell and that's why I will continue to do so. But puristically, he should be a 3P051
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08-19-2010, 12:16 PM | #14098 |
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08-19-2010, 02:04 PM | #14099 |
80's Civil Air Patrol Cdt
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I know right now we're big on the US AFSOCOM, Special Tactics Squadrons/Teams (ie: pj's/cct/sowt/tac parties). I know some of us want to keep the Pathfinders in Army, but the book i read "US AIR FORCE SPECIAL OPS" by Fred Pushies C2000. The chapter titled origins of the AFSOCOM claims, that this unit came from the Pathfinders from the US Army in WWII.
Pathfinder, on his 2001 & 2004 filecard for his PMS: all weather assault specialist, SMS: Forward Observer, Recon. So is it too much of a stretch to make Pathfinder a Special Ops Weather Technician? So in my Joe-Force (with female soldiers) The STS pair up with the Sky Patrol to make up an A Team. Slipstream - Combat Rescue Officer Pathfinder - Weather Technician Barrel Roll - CCT Sniper Ripcord - CCT Demolitions Bombstrike/Bombshell - CCT RTO Stretcher - PJ Sky Dive - 180A Altitude - 18Z Drop Zone - 18B Static Line - 18C Rigger (Sgt Six) -18D [Airborne II] Airwave - 18E
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08-20-2010, 01:56 AM | #14100 |
Iron Grenadier
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I own this figure and I think the SAW fits with him pretty well. My only objection is that they gave it a 30-round magazine instead of a 200-round drum. The SAW was designed to take the same magazine as the M16 so that one could use those if belted ammunition was in short supply. But the mags run dry so damn quickly, it's not the best choice. Duke should have been given a 200-round drum on the weapon with a couple of spares sculpted onto the webgear or backpack.
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