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08-10-2010, 12:11 AM | #14001 |
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I can usually overlook his political stuff as long as he can still tell a good story. Hopefully, I can track down those issues soon. Does IDW have subscriptions?
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08-10-2010, 12:14 AM | #14002 |
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They should, I don't know if ARAH is on the list yet or not.
There's a couple good online stores can get 'em through probably.
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08-10-2010, 01:49 PM | #14003 |
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Hmm, I haven't read 157 yet. Issue 156 wasn't bad and I don't remember the politics being too heavy. I wonder if Hama's just trying to add to the realism by interweaving in current events.
As for Bellomo, I hope he at least wrote up some drafts for consideration before IDW gave him the go ahead. I mean, it wouldn't have taken too long for him to write some storylines and drafts for 3 or 4 issues. |
08-11-2010, 02:56 PM | #14004 |
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Issue 157 was shocking and appalling, in my opinion.
*Spoiler* Snake-Eyes, Scarlet, and Duke are on the run somewhere in the Southwestern U.S. Cobra is running the boarder patrol, and a group of "concerned citizens" are armed and trying to turn in a group of "illegal immigrants". Snake-Eyes is appalled by this, so he convinces Duke to put a stop to it. The "concerned citizens" are American citizens. They are armed, but they seem to be enforcing the law. Snake-Eyes and Duke kill them. They slaughter them. It turns out that the "illegal immigrants" were actually Americans of Mexican descent, but they weren't being injured by the "concerned citizens". Bottom Line: Snake-Eyes and Duke slaughtered a group of conservative Americans because they disagreed with the immigration law. I'm outraged. I've lost ALL respect for Larry Hama. He has written my childhood heroes as murdering radicals with a Liberal Agenda... what's next, Tunnel Rat bombing the local NRA chapter? How about Roadblock gunning down a bunch of Pro-Life protesters. Maye be Low-Light could lay out in the desert and shoot any boarder patrol officers who are getting too close to illegal immigrants as they're crossing the boarder? Maybe Recondo could do some work helping the Columbian Drug Cartels because they're funding the rebels? It's ridiculous. On the flip side, and to be fair, I wouldn't want the Joes pursuing a conservative agenda either. It would be equally outrageous for the Joes to bomb an abortion clinic, or to destroy a local chapter of the ACLU. The Joes should be Non-Political. They should just do their missions, and fight Cobra. I don't need a comicbook to tell me what I should think about politics. Everyone always says that Larry Hama is such a smart guy; HE WRITES COMICBOOKS!!! He's not a lawyer, or a Political Scientist, or a Clergyman, or ANYTHING ELSE! The guy has spent his adult life writing about costumed superheroes in a fantasy world. Who gives a crap what he thinks about politics?!!!
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08-11-2010, 03:16 PM | #14005 |
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Issue 157 was shocking and appalling, in my opinion.
*Spoiler* Snake-Eyes, Scarlet, and Duke are on the run somewhere in the Southwestern U.S. Cobra is running the boarder patrol, and a group of "concerned citizens" are armed and trying to turn in a group of "illegal immigrants". Snake-Eyes is appalled by this, so he convinces Duke to put a stop to it. The "concerned citizens" are American citizens. They are armed, but they seem to be enforcing the law. Snake-Eyes and Duke kill them. They slaughter them. It turns out that the "illegal immigrants" were actually Americans of Mexican descent, but they weren't being injured by the "concerned citizens". Bottom Line: Snake-Eyes and Duke slaughtered a group of conservative Americans because they disagreed with the immigration law. I'm outraged. I've lost ALL respect for Larry Hama. He has written my childhood heroes as murdering radicals with a Liberal Agenda... what's next, Tunnel Rat bombing the local NRA chapter? How about Roadblock gunning down a bunch of Pro-Life protesters. Maye be Low-Light could lay out in the desert and shoot any boarder patrol officers who are getting too close to illegal immigrants as they're crossing the boarder? Maybe Recondo could do some work helping the Columbian Drug Cartels because they're funding the rebels? It's ridiculous. On the flip side, and to be fair, I wouldn't want the Joes pursuing a conservative agenda either. It would be equally outrageous for the Joes to bomb an abortion clinic, or to destroy a local chapter of the ACLU. The Joes should be Non-Political. They should just do their missions, and fight Cobra. I don't need a comicbook to tell me what I should think about politics. Everyone always says that Larry Hama is such a smart guy; HE WRITES COMICBOOKS!!! He's not a lawyer, or a Political Scientist, or a Clergyman, or ANYTHING ELSE! The guy has spent his adult life writing about costumed superheroes in a fantasy world. Who gives a crap what he thinks about politics?!!! But on a lighter note, I applaud your ability to refrain from using phrases such as "Larry Hama has raped my childhood memories". We had enough of that after RoC. Last edited by Sgt Humpty; 08-11-2010 at 03:36 PM.. |
08-11-2010, 06:56 PM | #14006 |
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Issue 157 was shocking and appalling, in my opinion.
*Spoiler* Snake-Eyes, Scarlet, and Duke are on the run somewhere in the Southwestern U.S. Cobra is running the boarder patrol, and a group of "concerned citizens" are armed and trying to turn in a group of "illegal immigrants". Snake-Eyes is appalled by this, so he convinces Duke to put a stop to it. The "concerned citizens" are American citizens. They are armed, but they seem to be enforcing the law. Snake-Eyes and Duke kill them. They slaughter them. It turns out that the "illegal immigrants" were actually Americans of Mexican descent, but they weren't being injured by the "concerned citizens". Bottom Line: Snake-Eyes and Duke slaughtered a group of conservative Americans because they disagreed with the immigration law. I'm outraged. I've lost ALL respect for Larry Hama. He has written my childhood heroes as murdering radicals with a Liberal Agenda... what's next, Tunnel Rat bombing the local NRA chapter? How about Roadblock gunning down a bunch of Pro-Life protesters. Maye be Low-Light could lay out in the desert and shoot any boarder patrol officers who are getting too close to illegal immigrants as they're crossing the boarder? Maybe Recondo could do some work helping the Columbian Drug Cartels because they're funding the rebels? It's ridiculous. Quote:
The "concerned citizens" are American citizens. They are armed, but they seem to be enforcing the law.
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Bottom Line: Snake-Eyes and Duke slaughtered a group of conservative Americans because they disagreed with the immigration law.
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08-11-2010, 10:08 PM | #14007 |
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Hmm... Well my take on it was that a bunch of "red-necks" decided to take the law into their own hands, as they didn't like the look of the supposed Mexican workers. They therefore decided to shoot the law enforcing Cobra police officers and were about to turn their automatic weapons on the aforementioned bunch of innocent supposedly-Mexican labourers. It turns out the labourers are indeed citizens of the USA, so I can't see any issue whatsoever re law enforcement.
Is vigilantiism lawful in the USA? I can't see how shooting the Cobra troops (who we must remember are acting as part of the government) is lawful. Or imo as they jumped to a conclusion (quite possible based on their dislike of immigration law) and decided that shooting the law enforcement officers (and then presumably followed by the alleged immigrants themselves) was a good way to settle the matter. Seems pretty clear cut to me... |
08-12-2010, 12:13 AM | #14008 |
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Hmm... Well my take on it was that a bunch of "red-necks" decided to take the law into their own hands, as they didn't like the look of the supposed Mexican workers. They therefore decided to shoot the law enforcing Cobra police officers and were about to turn their automatic weapons on the aforementioned bunch of innocent supposedly-Mexican labourers. It turns out the labourers are indeed citizens of the USA, so I can't see any issue whatsoever re law enforcement.
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And then when they turned on Cobra - EXACTLY WHAT THE JOES HAVE BEEN DOING - the Joes kill them. I'm not saying these "concerned citizens" were great guys. And perhaps they were commiting crimes based on discrimination... but does their attacking Cobras warrant Duke and Snake-Eyes slaughtering them? For Killing Cobras and being worried about border security? Quote:
Or imo as they jumped to a conclusion (quite possible based on their dislike of immigration law) and decided that shooting the law enforcement officers (and then presumably followed by the alleged immigrants themselves) was a good way to settle the matter. Seems pretty clear cut to me...
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08-12-2010, 12:16 AM | #14009 |
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I will never forget the good things Mr. Hama has done for G.I. Joe in the past, just like I'll never forget the good things Steven Speilburg and George Lucas did in their youth - I just don't like any of their contemporary work. My childhood remains firmly intact; I just don't care for how these characters are being portrayed now.
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08-12-2010, 12:38 AM | #14010 |
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Well I'm gonna have to check this issue out as soon as possible because I'd like to know where Hama is going with this. I'm not going to defend it or criticize it until I've read the issue but I'm sorry that you took such offense with it, Oliver. Do you think Hama is really pushing an anti-conservative viewpoint?
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