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11-12-2009, 10:31 PM | #151 |
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at the end of the day opinions are opinions whether good or bad.we live in a democracy so you cant tell people what to say/type what they feel about a topic. I think one of the problems here is you have some, not all who post who are ultra sensitve, take themselves way to seriously and cant handle opinions the opposite to theres.if these people cant handle criticism in its many forms then maybe they should not post or put themselves out there.THIS IS MY OPINION ONLY AND IT DOES NOT CHANGE,so for everyone who may disagree thats fine,but do not leave any visitor messages or pms like a sensitive soul recently did ,then saw sense and deleted it, you know who you are.I mostly agree with what ciad feels but at the same time the individual should not fear stating his opinion whether or not its good or bad.
And what I agree with even more is the tone it was put in, as it stimulates healthy discussion, albeit maybe slightly intense at times, but it is still healthy, for there is no abusive language or attack (well, maybe a slight attack, but not too abrasive). Basically, the way I see it, we are in a free society in this forum, where we can speak our minds. But with this freedom comes the responsibility of collectively maintaining the atmosphere that we all collectively enjoy, by not abusing this freedom. Just like in real life, if you physically attack someone, there is a chance (it doesn't always happen, but there is a chance), that you will be locked up for it if you're caught. Same here, even if you won't be really locked in jail, you can be put on a short term, maybe permanent ban, if you verbally abuse someone, or, put generally, abuse the freedom that we have been granted. Call it brown nosing the mods if you will, but that's my opinion. Flame if you will.
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11-12-2009, 10:43 PM | #152 |
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Hear, hear. Precisely why I gave up on BST at this site. I couldn't believe that every time I had EELs or something to sell for $8, the same members would PM and whine about a whopping 73 cent markup. I see the same flamers being modded constantly on the enterprises forum to this day and it makes me cringe.
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11-12-2009, 11:01 PM | #153 |
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im all in!!!! a-men
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11-12-2009, 11:10 PM | #154 |
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Amen Brother. Well said.
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11-12-2009, 11:25 PM | #155 |
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To be honest, I was somewhat pleasantly surprised at how calm people were on here, how sensitive most members were when "speaking" (or typing) their mind. Now I know a bit of why this is so.
In the forums that I've been on (well, I still visit from time to time, for entertainment, as well as for other reasons), high school stuff like name calling and mud slinging have become so rampant that members just treat it like ordinary speech. And to think that those were forums for adult hobbies, like cars. Come to think of it, I sort of enjoy the irony of seeing members of a toy forum act more mature than members of a car forum (again, no offense, personal observation only, and I still love visiting both, for obviously different reasons). |
11-12-2009, 11:31 PM | #156 |
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I remember back when this was first posted thinking that it was a great post, but having not experienced much of the hate, I didn't think it had anything to do with me.
A couple of months later when all the RoC 'debates' started, things began getting much less fun here. The polite people were walking on eggshells, trying to state an opinion, either for or against the movie, and were beat down by those who felt that they needed to be 'right' or 'superior' (when it's all just opinions anyway). To some degree, at this point the ability to have a debate has returned and I'm glad for it. There will always be touchy subjects to the fanbase, especially with something as big as a G.I. Joe movie, but it's nice to have someone disagree with you and tell you why rather than just call you a 'sheep' or a fool for enjoying what you enjoy. We are all different people who like different things and while we all should have the right to voice and defend our opinions, an environment like the Tank needs to be civil in order to remain enjoyable to the people who are here for the Joes, not the drama.
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11-13-2009, 12:31 AM | #157 |
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at the end of the day opinions are opinions whether good or bad.we live in a democracy so you cant tell people what to say/type what they feel about a topic. I think one of the problems here is you have some, not all who post who are ultra sensitve, take themselves way to seriously and cant handle opinions the opposite to theres.if these people cant handle criticism in its many forms then maybe they should not post or put themselves out there.THIS IS MY OPINION ONLY AND IT DOES NOT CHANGE,so for everyone who may disagree thats fine,but do not leave any visitor messages or pms like a sensitive soul recently did ,then saw sense and deleted it, you know who you are.I mostly agree with what ciad feels but at the same time the individual should not fear stating his opinion whether or not its good or bad.
it wasn't cuz I came to my senses... if i had 'come to my senses' i would have edited my response to your post insulting my intelligence in a toy thread. I do agree with you about posting opinions... but there is such a thing as self-control... and there is a time and a place for certain opinions... your opinion of my having 'more money than sense' just seems a bit out of place in a thread about an action figure... and I think that's what CIAD is kinda saying... you have no idea what i paid for my cobra commanders... you assume that because you were quoted that price that that's what I pay... and itz a fair assumption... but your impulse to make it personal has less to do with opinion and more to do with what comes off as this 'ultra sensitivity' you are sticking on other people. anyways... I delete a LOT of visitor messages (all in jest) cuz only you can see they were deleted (well and mods) and WHY it was deleted... although I do agree it is not worth ARGUING... but a fair discussion of your attack on me is a different story. as I'm attempting to convey here. maybe you're unaware but I give away a LOT of stuff... and I don't parade around asking for thank yous or credit or anything. a lot of people on here get stuff from me and I ask them not to say anything. so itz not about 'sense' or 'money' itz MY opinion of what to do with my 'sense' or 'money' or whatever you want to apply to it. but that being said I agree with you that opinions have a place... but I think a little SENSE goes both ways... you obviously didn't have the sense to keep the discussion focussssed on something other than your sensitivity to how people spend THEIR money... that's not really opinion if you don't know what I spent and you don't know anything else about me... most opinions are FORMULATED. educated. that's all. not knockin you... just tryin to put my end in perspective for you or anyone that cares to listen. you're asking people not to leave you PM's but who asked you to leave a thread post insulting me??? I get a LOT of crap on this forum for what I buy or when I buy it. most people on here know that I give most of it away for free and don't ask for anything in return. most people on here know that I have established contacts for buying stuff and that I get them cheaper because of how much i have purchased... etc. some stuff I have spent a lot on... stuff I enjoy... stuff I haven't posted on here... so itz not about bragging or anything... otherwise I would have posted it... the things I post are for knowledge or just to share weird or cool things that people might not be aware of. I don't care what anyone thinks but I'll still offer up a 'second opinion' if you will. just like you or anyone would. i'm a stay at home father. I don't have a job or income. a lot of people say things to me implying that I have a bunch of $$$ and I don't. I just do things I guess differently than what most people do. dunno. I just figure if you don't have all the facts, and you base everything you're saying on some sort of resentment... and you're gonna get personal... at least learn to spell. :P JOKING. sheesh.
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11-13-2009, 12:46 AM | #158 |
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11-13-2009, 12:48 AM | #159 |
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11-13-2009, 10:20 AM | #160 |
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wait... i deleted it as a joke. when deleted only YOU can see it was deleted.
it wasn't cuz I came to my senses... if i had 'come to my senses' i would have edited my response to your post insulting my intelligence in a toy thread. I do agree with you about posting opinions... but there is such a thing as self-control... and there is a time and a place for certain opinions... your opinion of my having 'more money than sense' just seems a bit out of place in a thread about an action figure... and I think that's what CIAD is kinda saying... you have no idea what i paid for my cobra commanders... you assume that because you were quoted that price that that's what I pay... and itz a fair assumption... but your impulse to make it personal has less to do with opinion and more to do with what comes off as this 'ultra sensitivity' you are sticking on other people. anyways... I delete a LOT of visitor messages (all in jest) cuz only you can see they were deleted (well and mods) and WHY it was deleted... although I do agree it is not worth ARGUING... but a fair discussion of your attack on me is a different story. as I'm attempting to convey here. maybe you're unaware but I give away a LOT of stuff... and I don't parade around asking for thank yous or credit or anything. a lot of people on here get stuff from me and I ask them not to say anything. so itz not about 'sense' or 'money' itz MY opinion of what to do with my 'sense' or 'money' or whatever you want to apply to it. but that being said I agree with you that opinions have a place... but I think a little SENSE goes both ways... you obviously didn't have the sense to keep the discussion focussssed on something other than your sensitivity to how people spend THEIR money... that's not really opinion if you don't know what I spent and you don't know anything else about me... most opinions are FORMULATED. educated. that's all. not knockin you... just tryin to put my end in perspective for you or anyone that cares to listen. you're asking people not to leave you PM's but who asked you to leave a thread post insulting me??? I get a LOT of crap on this forum for what I buy or when I buy it. most people on here know that I give most of it away for free and don't ask for anything in return. most people on here know that I have established contacts for buying stuff and that I get them cheaper because of how much i have purchased... etc. some stuff I have spent a lot on... stuff I enjoy... stuff I haven't posted on here... so itz not about bragging or anything... otherwise I would have posted it... the things I post are for knowledge or just to share weird or cool things that people might not be aware of. I don't care what anyone thinks but I'll still offer up a 'second opinion' if you will. just like you or anyone would. i'm a stay at home father. I don't have a job or income. a lot of people say things to me implying that I have a bunch of $$$ and I don't. I just do things I guess differently than what most people do. dunno. I just figure if you don't have all the facts, and you base everything you're saying on some sort of resentment... and you're gonna get personal... at least learn to spell. :P JOKING. sheesh. |
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