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10-28-2010, 05:38 PM | #11 |
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Conspiracy theories are the first refuge of the ignorant and uneducated mind. It gives an otherwise stupid person a feeling of knowing something the rest of society doesn't, but you only have to see the general education level of the people who believe them to know that they don't know a whole lot about physics, science, history, or sociology.
They also tend to assign a rather scary level of competence to a government that so rarely displays any (regardless of who's in the head office). |
10-28-2010, 05:43 PM | #12 |
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I love Jesse Ventura. He makes all the policy makers look stupid. GO JESSE GO!!!!!! The 9/11 episode was awesome when he did the thermite test and the jet fuel test. Big ups to Richard Gage and Jesse Ventura!!!!
As far as what the mainstream media tells you here is an interesting video:
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10-28-2010, 05:59 PM | #13 |
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Jesse Ventura is the perfect person to host a show like that with his belief that 9/11 was an "inside job". He and Rosie O'Donell should host it together with her belief that fire no matter how hot it is does not melt steel. When I need a steel bolt I go to the steel bolt farm where you can pick them off the trees. They are not made in a forge whitch uses steel MELTED WITH FIRE. They are both morons, and MN is better off without him.
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10-28-2010, 06:16 PM | #14 |
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Jesse Ventura is the perfect person to host a show like that with his belief that 9/11 was an "inside job". He and Rosie O'Donell should host it together with her belief that fire no matter how hot it is does not melt steel. When I need a steel bolt I go to the steel bolt farm where you can pick them off the trees. They are not made in a forge whitch uses steel MELTED WITH FIRE. They are both morons, and MN is better off without him.
Ventura was Navy UDT. (Underwater Demolitions Team) which would say that he might, have a little clue about detonation and destruction. Secondly as far as steel goes with being melted by fire- a blast furnace (the type of fire furnace you would be talking about) tends to hold heat far more and for a far more extended period of time than an explosion would allow. The type of fuel used by most commercial aircraft would have a much faster burn off necessary under normal circumstances. So while I think most conspiracy theories are ignorant and futile attempts at painting a big brother picture of the government, in this case from a professional stand point a lot of the figures do not really add up. For the record I work as a NDT inspector for the government (mostly steel welds specifically), so this is coming from a place where this information is my job. Metallurgy classes the works. |
10-28-2010, 06:26 PM | #15 |
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While I could not agree with you more on Rosie O'Donell, I think you might be overlooking a few facts esp concerning steel and Ventura.
Ventura was Navy UDT. (Underwater Demolitions Team) which would say that he might, have a little clue about detonation and destruction. Secondly as far as steel goes with being melted by fire- a blast furnace (the type of fire furnace you would be talking about) tends to hold heat far more and for a far more extended period of time than an explosion would allow. The type of fuel used by most commercial aircraft would have a much faster burn off necessary under normal circumstances. So while I think most conspiracy theories are ignorant and futile attempts at painting a big brother picture of the government, in this case from a professional stand point a lot of the figures do not really add up. For the record I work as a NDT inspector for the government (mostly steel welds specifically), so this is coming from a place where this information is my job. Metallurgy classes the works.
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10-28-2010, 06:34 PM | #16 |
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While I could not agree with you more on Rosie O'Donell, I think you might be overlooking a few facts esp concerning steel and Ventura.
Ventura was Navy UDT. (Underwater Demolitions Team) which would say that he might, have a little clue about detonation and destruction. Secondly as far as steel goes with being melted by fire- a blast furnace (the type of fire furnace you would be talking about) tends to hold heat far more and for a far more extended period of time than an explosion would allow. The type of fuel used by most commercial aircraft would have a much faster burn off necessary under normal circumstances. So while I think most conspiracy theories are ignorant and futile attempts at painting a big brother picture of the government, in this case from a professional stand point a lot of the figures do not really add up. For the record I work as a NDT inspector for the government (mostly steel welds specifically), so this is coming from a place where this information is my job. Metallurgy classes the works. |
10-28-2010, 06:41 PM | #17 |
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Conspiracy theories are the first refuge of the ignorant and uneducated mind. It gives an otherwise stupid person a feeling of knowing something the rest of society doesn't, but you only have to see the general education level of the people who believe them to know that they don't know a whole lot about physics, science, history, or sociology.
They also tend to assign a rather scary level of competence to a government that so rarely displays any (regardless of who's in the head office).
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I think calling people who believe in conspiracy theories ignorant and uneducated is closed minded. There's many conspiracies out there that no one knows about. 9/11 is one of them but if you don't believe it is, the JFK assasination would be the proof that governments have darker plans that anyone can imagine.
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Wow, there is alot of comments here that seem uneducated from all the attacks on other people's beliefs. What is sad to me is, it doesn't take much common sense to question how those towers fell at free fall speed if the steel melted in the upper floors. If thats the case, then isn't it a little odd that those lower floors just fell at free fall? After all, its the government telling you that the weight of the upper floors caused the ones below to collapse. If that is the case, then ask yourself the question, why did those bottom floors not at least cause some delay of the free fall before they collapsed as well. That to me is just basic physics and common sense. I suggest before you start calling others morons, research the topic yourself and then come back with educated responses other than name calling.
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10-28-2010, 06:44 PM | #20 |
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The point I was trying to make is that Rosie is ignorant. She stated on national tv that if the towers were not made to fall then it was the first time in the history of the world that fire has melted steel. Now I'm not a metallurgist but I think fire can melt steel. As for Ventura I don't think he is educated enough to bring down a building of that kind. Just my opinion.
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