[spacemonkeymafia]

Sounds like those votes need to be shot out of a Tank....get it.....lol...I kill me.....

[redstripe]

as a film, transformers was a steeming pile of dung. as a TF movie, it was worse. the special effects were pretty cool, but they shot the robots so tight w/ super quick cuts that the action had no rhythm or weight...

gi joe would make a great comedy... especially if they play up the sexual tension between destro and CC, and make it a rom/com.

[karamazov80]

I am a pretty big Transformers fan, and I disliked it. . .but it had less to do with the treatment of TFs than with the movie viewed on its own merits. I really, really dislike the Michael Bay style and attitude, the way he portrays "characters", the stereotypes, the "jump-cuts", the "dramatic" camera movements and slow motion, the things he values (explosions. . .and lowest-common-denominator humor), and just what he stands for I guess. I liked Cullen's voice, and I thought the Megatron personality was dead-on excellent, but that was about it.

Plus, I am a huge John Turturro fan, so seeing him :SPOILER: pissed on by Bumblebee (which I felt Bay did, unconsciously or otherwise, to symbolically represent his feelings toward independent cinema and "serious" actors and film) :END SPOILER: wasn't particularly appealing to me.

I kept hearing the "have low expectations and enjoy the movie for what it is" argument when it came out. . .but that's just not how I treat the movies that I see. Can't do it. I expect to see quality stuff, and if it isn't good, then I can't just "enjoy" silly, mindless special effects showcases. I wish that I could, frankly.

[delta]

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Originally Posted by redstripe

gi joe would make a great comedy... especially if they play up the sexual tension between destro and CC, and make it a rom/com.

What about something like this?

[delta]

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Originally Posted by karamazov80

Plus, I am a huge John Turturro fan, so seeing him :SPOILER: pissed on by Bumblebee (which I felt Bay did, unconsciously or otherwise, to symbolically represent his feelings toward independent cinema and "serious" actors and film) :END SPOILER: wasn't particularly appealing to me.

Love the guy myself, but you gotta admit he probably did not take the situation he was in very seriously. That being said how could he though?

I feel the same about John Voight in the film. Both Turturro (or the Jesus if you will), and Voight phoned it in, and then danced around the pay checks.

[VIPER 48]

I liked it. It wasn't what i expected but i thought it was great. I can't wait to see the 2nd one...

[theprocess]

is there an option for "it SUUUUUUUUUUCKED!!!

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Originally Posted by karamazov80

Plus, I am a huge John Turturro fan, so seeing him :SPOILER: pissed on by Bumblebee (which I felt Bay did, unconsciously or otherwise, to symbolically represent his feelings toward independent cinema and "serious" actors and film) :END SPOILER: wasn't particularly appealing to me.

The angle that scene was shot in gave me the impression that they were pissing on the fans. I moved out of the way, not a fan of transforming cars.

[spacemonkeymafia]

Did McBeth suck? I think not......

[tile_mcgillus]

I totally hated it. I am a transfan and a cinefile. So this movie is my kryptonite.

The script was laughably bad with GAPING holes in logic. (SAm must get to roof to avoid all the flying Decepticons!?!?! Away from his only protection the non flying autobots!?!?)

The direction was so terrible that central characters disappeared from scenes and then the entire movie without resolution or explanation. (Cop car anyone!)

The designs of the robots were so cluttered and the editing so hectic that I literally had no idea was on the screen during several action sequences. Although I loved the optimus prime and Bonecrusher fight and the Starscream squadron fight.

To illustrate my hate for this movie I will discuss the complete lack of understanding of the entire concept in one shot. Sam and Mikeala making out on the hood of bumblebee. There. Anyone? See how the basic premise is completely ignored...Michael Bay had no idea what on Earth he was doing.

I don't think I am being harder on this film than any other movie I watch. If it was just a movie with explosions and robots fighting (which would have been great!) then why spend 1 and a half hours with extraneous characters and convolute a simple story.

Man. What a bad taste in my mouth. Lowered expectations are for school plays not 150 million dollar movies.

[delta]

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Originally Posted by tile_mcgillus

I totally hated it. I am a transfan and a cinefile. So this movie is my kryptonite.

The script was laughably bad with GAPING holes in logic.

The direction was so terrible that central characters disappeared from scenes and then the entire movie without resolution or explanation.

The designs of the robots were so cluttered and the editing so hectic that I literally had no idea was on the screen during several action sequences. Although I loved the optimus prime and Bonecrusher fight and the Starscream squadron fight.

To illustrate my hate for this movie I will discuss the complete lack Even 'of understanding of the entire concept in one shot. Sam and Mikeala making out on the hood of bumblebee. There. Anyone? See how the basic premise is completely ignored...Michael Bay had no idea what on Earth he was doing.

I don't think I am being harder on this film than any other movie I watch. If it was just a movie with explosions and robots fighting (which would have been great!) then why spend 1 and a half hours with extraneous characters and convolute a simple story.

Man. What a bad taste in my mouth. Lowered expectations are for school plays not 150 million dollar movies.

Great explination. Coulden't agree more.

Even 'Robot Jox' was better than that POS. At least the cheese in 'Robot Jox' Was unintentionally funny.
The intentionally funny parts of Transformers were just lame, and as uncool as my Dad wearing Oakleys, and a members only jacket.

(if you haven't seen 'Robot Jox' dig this. It's like Transformers meets a Mystery Seince Theater movie, Meets Kick ass!!)