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Sky Striker XP-21F VS Tomcat 21
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Sky Striker XP-21F VS Tomcat 21
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04-11-2011
02:38 PM
Shin Densetsu
To kick things off, I decided to start this thread to point out the differences between the upcoming Sky Striker XP-21F and Tomcat 21. Now there are 2 reasons why Hasbro may have chosen to designate the upcoming Sky Striker, as XP-21F, in lieu of the original XP-14F. The numbers 14 and 21 denote 2 designation numbers for the Tomcat. Tomcat 21 was an advanced variant proposed as a bridge to the NATF. However, both programs were canceled and later the F-14D Super Tomcat program was canceled.
The reasons why the new Sky Striker may be designated as XP-21F are
1- Someone at Hasbro may be doing their homework and reading up on military aviation history
2- Has something to do with why the Sky Striker is now 2 words and not 1, due to another company securing the Skystriker name for a water gun
3- A combination of both aforementioned reasons.
04-11-2011
02:39 PM
Shin Densetsu
First, lets start off with similarities of XP-21F and Tomcat 21. Tomcat 21 was to have a frameless windscreen. A HUD was to be included just like the F-14D, either the same HUD or an advanced one. The engines on the XP-21F feature scribed details evoking the scribed lines of the F110 GE400 yet still featuring the silhouette of the TF30 engine nozzles of the F-14A/XP-14F. That's pretty much where the similarities end.
04-11-2011
02:39 PM
Shin Densetsu
There are more differences than not. For fans of the Tomcat 21, many of us thought the new Sky Striker, after hearing the new designation, could possibly feature the details of Tomcat 21. It actually doesn't. The profile from the side, and from the top, is much closer to the F-14A. Why? First, the XP-21F basically has the same nozzles as the F-14A but different scribed details. Tomcat 21 was also a 2 seater. The XP-21F lacks the reformed glove section of the Tomcat 21 and the Fowler flaps. The ejection seat in the XP-21F has handles from the F-14A, Tomcat 21 would've used NACES seats like on the F-14D. The glove vanes are visually defining aspects of Tomcat 21. Furthermore, the FLIR, and other sensors meant to be molded as part of the forward Phoenix missle palettes are not there, same goes for the TCS/IRST pods underneath the nose.
04-11-2011
02:39 PM
Shin Densetsu
So in conclusion, XP-21F shares nothing in common with Tomcat 21 aside from the HUD, designation number, and the fact that it's a Tomcat. The XP-21F basically looks like a retrofitted Skystriker. This is not a deal breaker, but the 21 label is misleading. Mind you, this is not a complaint but rather an observation. I've been waiting nearly, if not, a decade for a new Sky Striker toy and I intend to buy multiples to customize.
04-11-2011
04:11 PM
Skipper
Very informative Shin, nice observations.
I was saddened to hear that the wing mechanism is still connected to the landing gear. Personally I dont understand it at all, but given the fact that the landing gear could have been just flip out landing gear with no mechanism involved and the swing wing just done manually and remove the lever would have made this the PERFECT GI JOE jet to date. Im not thrilled with it being a one seater either, but then its a new skystriker at an affordable price. Personally I think someone just copied the autocad plans and just forked the money over for tooling after finally realizing folks are paying 4x the possible retail value. 2 reasons I can see for making it a one seater...1-filling up the cockpit with the hud and redesigned seat to fit a 30430 figure, cuz you know he is taller and 2..
04-11-2011
04:11 PM
Skipper
..nope I got nothin.
It pains me bc the F-14 is a notorious 2 seater and we did grow up with that feature, plus, it would make us buy another figure...any figure. I know, I know, we arent Hasbro, it just bugs me.
Price is great,
Sculpt and improvements look fantastic
Better appliques on the fighter--dont know if we have to do most of the work and we just get a clean one, we will have to wait and see.
04-11-2011
04:12 PM
Skipper
I have been waiting for a re-issue for about 7 years. Ive been collecting skystrikers for my larger FLAGG carrier diorama...currently I have 21. Its effing awesome.
04-11-2011
04:13 PM
Shin Densetsu
Hoping we can find a way to separate the wings from the gear. There's gotta be an easy way that everyone can utilize.
04-11-2011
06:15 PM
Skipper
The best I can come up with, with Sarge's help, is to cut down the teeth on the black frame inside the skystriker, the gear teeth on the wing need to stay on so they keep the wing level under the lip of the black frame. This allows for the landing gear to be seperated and the wings can be adjusted manually/not together obviously.
04-11-2011
06:41 PM
Shin Densetsu
Are the wings able to maintain their position though?
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