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View Poll Results: Why do creators change a charactors race? | |||
To add a new and interesting element to the character. | 11 | 11.00% | |
To make the property reflect our more racialy diverse society. | 33 | 33.00% | |
To create controversy and "free publicity" by riling fan boys up. | 22 | 22.00% | |
Because they are lame. | 42 | 42.00% | |
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07-03-2010, 09:02 PM | #11 |
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Subliminal racist my ass. If they took Roadblock and made him caucasian, or Quick Kick a latino I'd throw just as much of a fit. It's just plain lazy creative writing. Find a way to modify a characters origins to fit new times that holds true to the original figure or create a new one. Ripcord from ROC was nothing like the original Ripcord. It isn't even race that's the problem with the ROC Ripcord. If you changed Wayans from Ripcord to Stalker it'd still be a horrible fit, because the character they made doesn't fit him.
And he's not a low level joe character in many people's joe verse. Cesspool is a low level character. Recoil is a low level character. Ripcord has a lot of history in the joe mythos. Last edited by Roshan; 07-03-2010 at 09:04 PM.. |
07-03-2010, 09:10 PM | #12 |
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its only racist if you wanna see it as that....for most people, aside from the drama starters (not saying you're doin that), it shows a lack of willing ness to creatre new characters and their unwillingness to expand the brand and instead reuse old characters with pre established idtenities, ethnicities etc.
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Subliminal racist my ass. If they took Roadblock and made him caucasian, or Quick Kick a latino I'd throw just as much of a fit. It's just plain lazy creative writing. Find a way to modify a characters origins to fit new times that holds true to the original figure or create a new one. Ripcord from ROC was nothing like the original Ripcord. It isn't even race that's the problem with the ROC Ripcord. If you changed Wayans from Ripcord to Stalker it'd still be a horrible fit, because the character they made doesn't fit him.
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07-03-2010, 09:14 PM | #13 |
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For one, I'm not here to start "ish", it's just getting really old with the debates over a character's race/ ethnicity change. The complaints are with characters being re-imagined into black people. Why should the race or ethnicity or even gender matter of the characters, so long as they possess the qualities of the characters.
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07-03-2010, 09:18 PM | #14 |
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07-03-2010, 09:19 PM | #15 |
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What it REALLY comes down to is fans are unwilling to accept that GI Joe is not "their" brand. It is Hasbro's brand, and they can and WILL make any changes they feel necessary.
The movie is NOT a translation of the ARAH mythos, it is an ADAPTION. For all intents and purposes, the movie was a clean slate for a fresh start to the brand, and is not and SHOULD NOT be bound by anything that came before. In the end, Ripcord is just a name, not even a "big name" from Hasbro's marketing angle. Movie Ripcord is NOT ARAH Ripcord. Just like this Megatron is not the same as this Megatron who is not the same as this Megatron
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07-03-2010, 09:23 PM | #16 |
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What it REALLY comes down to is fans are unwilling to accept that GI Joe is not "their" brand. It is Hasbro's brand, and they can and WILL make any changes they feel necessary.
The movie is NOT a translation of the ARAH mythos, it is an ADAPTION. For all intents and purposes, the movie was a clean slate for a fresh start to the brand, and is not and SHOULD NOT be bound by anything that came before. In the end, Ripcord is just a name, not even a "big name" from Hasbro's marketing angle. Movie Ripcord is NOT ARAH Ripcord. Just like this Megatron is not the same as this Megatron who is not the same as this Megatron
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07-03-2010, 09:25 PM | #17 |
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The changes seem arbitrary to me.
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07-03-2010, 09:27 PM | #18 |
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Best example I can think of is Transformers Sideswipe, which has gotten INNUMEROUS figures during the past 10 years, accounting to something like 5 DIFFERENT characters. However, they generally weren't on the shelves AT THE SAME TIME.
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07-03-2010, 09:33 PM | #19 |
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Does ANYONE think it might have been as simple as:
"Hey guys - We have Marlon Wayans on contract for three movies... want to throw him a role in this GI Joe thing?" Tom
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07-03-2010, 09:35 PM | #20 |
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first off.. I AM black.... and I also disliked the race change.
I also agree with the continuity of the character. I wouldnt mind so much Wayans being ripcord.. if he DIDNT have the original WHITE ripcord's name. how can two different people of different race and personality have the same name? I agree it shows poor writing, poor creative skills, and a disrespect for the franchise, AND the characters. Duke is a top sergeant, he is also white. If he suddenly showed up as a black man, with the EXACT same name.. I would be pissed. 'cause Duke has an established past, personality and storyline. Its the same if they turned Superman Black.... or Stalker white for that matter. its less about the race,.. and moreso about respecting the character. See.. Flint's personality change made seance.. his wife was murdered.. so realistically his outlook changed. THATS writing... suddenly making us think Mr. fairboure was black.. and has ALWAYS been black, is an insult. ...like two different Optimus, 2 different Airbournes? or worse,.. giving us the SAME baroness, and calling her Chameleon.
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