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10-23-2009, 12:00 AM | #11 |
Gary Goggles
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having personally domesticated/rescued/found/etc hundreds of animals throughout my entire life and working at dog daycares or shelters for the past five years on top of it all...
I can tell you that animals (dogs especially) can be perfectly 'content' being blind or deaf etc... the time to put them down is when you know that they are in severe pain and meds etc aren't dampening it to any extent. and even then itz kind of a grey area. My mom put a lot of my pets down behind my back... when I was younger and even after I moved out. She would decide when they were in too much pain. Which is hard... because how can you really gauge that sort of thing when the communication barrier is thick and you only have what you know as a human to go on. if that makes any sense. euthanasia is sort of a dark luxury that we reserve for animals... but truth be told ... a lot of HUMANS want it for themselves under the same dire and painful circumstances. I'd actually feel better taking a HUMAN in to be euthanized because at least they can tell me what sort of pain they are in. heheheh. but in all seriousness... don't be impulsive in your decision... or better yet, don't let others be impulsive regarding this... you'll know when it's time. it certainly doesn't sound like it is time. your pet wouldn't give up on you.
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10-23-2009, 12:12 AM | #12 |
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It is impossible to put this situation into words of what can make it any easier, I have never been able t bring myself to quit on my little ones as long as they seem ok and are trying to live as long as they can (wrong as some may feel that is). I have had 3 cats in the last 6 or so years that have just turned down hill for various diseases/old age ending in me loosing them in the end. You will know once the time comes as he will either be in total pain or will just stop walking/eating/drinking all together. If he is still up and about and not in pain I think you can allow him to enjoy the time he has left, don't quit on him, let him work that course for you. I spent over $3,000 trying to determine what took my last cat (insane looking back it at now as I was so worried and tyring to figure out what was killing her), she was perfectly healthy for 6 years strait and then within 2 weeks time was dead and gone from intestinal Lymphoma. Came out of no where. I was spared the decsion to put her to sleep as she died at a pet hospital while they were trying to induce her natural insticnt to eat as she had stopped doing so. I feel this was my fault for allowing them to do this as it put her little body into cartiact arrest and then they tried revived her (make sure you do not sign the docuemnt to try and resussitate, it did me no good and it ended being another $400 on top of everything else) and she was gone.
I have never taken loosing a pet easily and it is so traumatic to go through. I find it harder then that of a human funeral as the little guys always get so close to you yet they do not have a lot of time to be with us...they just age way to fast :( Enjoy your time with your little friend and then look forward to a new buddy. In fact it is sometimes easier though nothing can replace your current one, to go ahead and start looking for a new pet and let them enjoy each other too in his last days. This will also let you see that life in another animal can help you through the loss of your current one when the time comes. Emotional rollercoaster none the less, just another reminder that we all will run out of time one day... |
10-23-2009, 12:13 AM | #13 |
cobra stonemason
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I had put my homie Bear down last year......epic f!#king suckage man. He was in crazy pain though and I just couldn't see him like that.
To me the pain he was in was the breaking point, if he's not there yet, well......your call man, I'd try to hold out till the pain is there, I don't wish that on anything. |
10-23-2009, 12:13 AM | #14 |
Cobra Janitor
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I agree with Gyre-Viper.
Some pets really deserve to experience the last days/minutes/seconds of their life... |
10-23-2009, 12:22 AM | #15 |
a series of tubes
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My parents adopted a border collie from a family friend when I was 11 years old. The previous owner didn't have the time to take care of a dog that needs space to run and move around. My parents have about 8 acres of yard for him to run around, which was great. He loved it. Over the years, he began to slow down, grow old... all pets do. In the last 2 years, he'd lost most of his sight, all of his hearing, and had a terrible time standing up, if he could at all. He was more my dad's dog than any of the rest of us, so he didn't want to let him go. Buddy was around 18 years old at the beginning of this year. I'm 25 now, so that'd mean we've had him for 14 years. This last July, we had to have the local vet come out and put him to sleep, since he was just in too much pain. Don't get me wrong, the vet said he was a happy dog, despite the situation. My mom called me to tell me about it... it really sucks when you've had a pet for most of your life and it eventually comes to that... maybe its part of life, but it still sucks. I remember him as a good dog, a good friend, and a part of our family.
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10-23-2009, 12:28 AM | #16 |
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No, man. If a pet is a part of your family, you need to treat it like a person. If your Grandpa went blind and couldn't handle solid food anymore, would you kill him? I think not. Let the dog live out his days.
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10-23-2009, 12:56 AM | #17 |
That's lo!
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My dad felt like foolproof, don't do to your pet what you wouldn't do to a family member. He disregarded his vet's recommendations and kept his 17yr old Dachshund/Chihuahua with him until the dog died. It was a painful, terrible experience for both of them. The dog howled in agony all night, biting at everything and bleeding from his mouth, nose, ... until he finally died, howling. My dad said after that if he could change anything it would be to have put the dog down peacefully at the vet's recommendation rather than try and drag long painful days out of the animal. When the vet says that it's the dog's time to go, please accept that and do the right thing for the sake of the animal.
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10-23-2009, 01:02 AM | #18 |
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My dad felt like foolproof, don't do to your pet what you wouldn't do to a family member. He disregarded his vet's recommendations and kept his 17yr old Dachshund/Chihuahua with him until the dog died. It was a painful, terrible experience for both of them. The dog howled in agony all night, biting at everything and bleeding from his mouth, nose, ... until he finally died, howling. My dad said after that if he could change anything it would be to have put the dog down peacefully at the vet's recommendation rather than try and drag long painful days out of the animal. When the vet says that it's the dog's time to go, please accept that and do the right thing for the sake of the animal.
Let me rephrase that: As long as the dog isn't in horrible pain, let him live out his days. |
10-23-2009, 01:03 AM | #19 |
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Putting a dog down with such minimal medical issues is a waste. If the dog is happy, it's probably not suffering much so I don't think it is time.
We made the mistake 5 years ago of holding on to our dog too long because we didn't want to let her go after 13 years and she suffered. She had about 5 or 6 tumours and it would have cost $3000 to get rid of them all and we didn't have the money to do it so we just hoped that she would get better and she got way worse, to the point where we woke up one day and she actually had maggots eating the spot where she lost hair. It was that bad, that fast. We put her down a week after her 13th birthday. She died in my Catwoman jammies I wore as a kid. The spot where she lost the hair was very big and the skin looked bad so I wanted to cover her up in my jammies. It was sad to see her like that. No matter how much you don't want to let go, you have to. Your dog, though, isn't ready yet. You'll know when it's time.
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10-23-2009, 01:11 AM | #20 |
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Bleeding from the mouth and howling and screaming in pain is kinda of a sight that something is really wrong and should be handled appropriatley. But being blind and a little sluggish getting around is far from that. You can really see it in thier eyes when they are really going. They get this really far away look, eyes start to glaze over and they become very lsitless. If the dog is up and about and happy, then its like others have said, its no different then going to your grand parents at the retirment/hospital with a sedative/deadly posion cocktail syringe you inject them with then watch them slowly die from your descion. If you could stomach that then putting the anmial down would be just as easy, howver I could not do either nor watch it, I just can't stomach that especally peopel/animals close to me.
People say it is so soothing to hold your animal as it goes to sleep forever, I dunno how I could handle that knowing that I made the descion to kill my poor friend when you do not know how much longer he will go on unless a specific diagnoses can pinpoint the ultimate demise. He could live another 5-10 years (my vet said one of my first cats would die at age 6 and she lived to 18 with a really bad asthma like breathing problem) healthy but just old, humans do, not unsual of toher animals. Human emotions of whats right and wrong for other creatures gets the better of a lot of people when in the end it really has ntohing to do with us or our decision to keep it going to to put it to sleep. Millions of speciies die everydie without anyone loosing sleep over it for various reasons, let nature do it's own thing. |
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