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08-29-2009, 08:37 PM | #61 |
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and that my friends is whats wrong with world. The planet will never go green because some back assword company like Family Dollar will just fill the landfills instead of donating or recycle. Thank you for this information cause this pisses me off to the point that I will never step foot in there store again.
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08-29-2009, 09:41 PM | #62 |
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Folks this is just like ripping off the covers of magazines and comics. It'd be pretty illegal to get credit back from the vendor and then turn around and sell it anyway. All retail does this. Not just Family Dollar.
I used to be a retail logistics manager. After a certain product sits around for awhile an economic effect called "diminishing returns" becomes a factor. The next step is putting it on clearance, sometimes so low just to brake even or get something for the product. The next step is a product recall, or vendor return. Many vendors have these in place already like the aforementioned magazines and especially electronic products whose companies want to get the old models off the shelves for the new ones. In other cases the retail chain has to pressure the vendor to recall the product because it just isn't selling, its occupying precious shelf space, and they are losing money. (Yep, that's why retail stores exist, to make money.) With more expensive products, you usually have to ship the product back to the company, with other things you are directed to "destroy in field." Which in my job had to be proven with a document signed/witnessed by two employees. At least one being a manager. Why? Because in all these cases the store would receive a credit back from the vendor who is essentially buying back their product that didn't sell. These guys might turn around and resell them to discount chains. Selling these 'destroyed" items after receiving this credit or letting employees/customers "steal" them would be highly unethical and results in financial and legal penalties. Stores like Target for example that carry their own internal brand that they produce themselves can't return these item to anybody so they have arrangements in place to donate them to Goodwill, etc. Which in turn they write off their taxes as a credit in the end anyway. A possible explanation having an item ring up "item not found" or as $.01, these are products that missed a recall. Say for example the store had 10 of product "X" and a recall came out for it. The store could only find 8, so they correct the count in the inventory and process the recall for 8 items. The costs for the other two are sucked up by the store itself assuming these items are loss to theft or inventory errors etc. and are written off as well. Maybe there is still one or two somewhere in the store that they just couldn't find when processing the recall. Bashing something you don't understand is ignorance in action. Last edited by Captain Carstein; 08-29-2009 at 09:44 PM.. |
08-30-2009, 07:16 AM | #63 |
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I used to work for a newspaper/magazine distribution center....we delivered bulk papers and mags to buisnesses....EVEREY fri night, before hitting the road, wed be in the "shredding room" were we threw every returned mag and comic into a giant shredded....if it had a cd or dvd in there oh well- recycled....cool thing was that we were able to take home WHATEVER we wanted, as long as it was a stupid amount of the SAME mag or comic(wouldnt want up to go and sell them, lol)
tons of porn, comics,video game mags etc....
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08-31-2009, 06:58 PM | #64 |
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Sounds like I need to do some dumpster diving.
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08-31-2009, 10:33 PM | #65 |
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wear a snorkel lol
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08-31-2009, 10:44 PM | #66 |
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They could donate to Toys for tots.
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08-31-2009, 11:54 PM | #67 |
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Folks this is just like ripping off the covers of magazines and comics. It'd be pretty illegal to get credit back from the vendor and then turn around and sell it anyway. All retail does this. Not just Family Dollar.
I used to be a retail logistics manager. After a certain product sits around for awhile an economic effect called "diminishing returns" becomes a factor. The next step is putting it on clearance, sometimes so low just to brake even or get something for the product. The next step is a product recall, or vendor return. Many vendors have these in place already like the aforementioned magazines and especially electronic products whose companies want to get the old models off the shelves for the new ones. In other cases the retail chain has to pressure the vendor to recall the product because it just isn't selling, its occupying precious shelf space, and they are losing money. (Yep, that's why retail stores exist, to make money.) With more expensive products, you usually have to ship the product back to the company, with other things you are directed to "destroy in field." Which in my job had to be proven with a document signed/witnessed by two employees. At least one being a manager. Why? Because in all these cases the store would receive a credit back from the vendor who is essentially buying back their product that didn't sell. These guys might turn around and resell them to discount chains. Selling these 'destroyed" items after receiving this credit or letting employees/customers "steal" them would be highly unethical and results in financial and legal penalties. Stores like Target for example that carry their own internal brand that they produce themselves can't return these item to anybody so they have arrangements in place to donate them to Goodwill, etc. Which in turn they write off their taxes as a credit in the end anyway. A possible explanation having an item ring up "item not found" or as $.01, these are products that missed a recall. Say for example the store had 10 of product "X" and a recall came out for it. The store could only find 8, so they correct the count in the inventory and process the recall for 8 items. The costs for the other two are sucked up by the store itself assuming these items are loss to theft or inventory errors etc. and are written off as well. Maybe there is still one or two somewhere in the store that they just couldn't find when processing the recall. Bashing something you don't understand is ignorance in action. Maybe the blame is being mis-directed at Family Dollar, but after reading this explanation it only shifts the blame to the manufacturer. Why can't they do something good and donate the toys? |
09-01-2009, 01:43 AM | #68 |
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I understand your explanation of why Family Dollar has to destroy them, but why can't Hasbro direct Family Dollar to donate the items to goodwill? They could certify with witnesses, etc that it was donated to a reputable charity rather than destroyed.
Maybe the blame is being mis-directed at Family Dollar, but after reading this explanation it only shifts the blame to the manufacturer. Why can't they do something good and donate the toys? |
09-01-2009, 08:46 AM | #69 |
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I certainly don't have all the answers, just sharing info that I know. I'm sure there's ways for these businesses to be creative. I would guess that it comes back to money and who are the going to pay to take care of the labor and shipping cost in bringing them to a charity. I'm sure that's why they just have the store destroy them. Their methods don't always make sense or seem to save them money either. I don't know what kind of resources Family Dollar has at the store level to make anything happen either.
I guess sometimes some things simply never get thought of in the beginning. It's been this way from the start because it is the easiest thing to do, and no one really questioned it with the people that could enact change. I wonder if people wrote some encouraging letters some exec at Hasbro would want to do it. Or, perhaps a letter to some execs from Family Dollar could get with Hasbro or whomever to work out some sort of process where they could donate rather than destroy. It would certainly be good PR for them if they did something like this. |
09-01-2009, 08:55 AM | #70 |
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OK, here is a quick letter I submitted to Family Dollar via their website.
"Recently, a friend has informed me that it is the policy of Family Dollar to destroy old merchandise, such as toys, when they can no longer be sold to customers. I think that this is such a waste. I feel it would be better if Family Dollar could donate non-food items to charity. I understand that there may be legal obligations with your suppliers, but I think that if you work together with them you could come to some arrangement that is a win-win for all. So, rather than destroying good product and contributing to trash that gets dumped in landfills, the product could be put to good use by a needy person. Or, in the case of a toy it could bring a little joy to a needy child. It is a more green and charitable option I feel. I hope you can seriously take my suggestion into consideration." This is where I submitted it. Family Dollar - Contact Us How about some more people get in on this. Maybe they would actually do something about it. |
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