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05-21-2020, 01:12 AM | #1 |
Reptilian Ninja
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So the states are reopening and everyone is lining up to go inside Mcdonalds to get a heart attack in sack. Is this thing close to being over or do people think here in a few weeks we will have Quarantine part 2? I do think that people need too go back to work because they got bills to pay,etc but at the same time I'm the type that thinks that in some ways people should have prepared for something like that? Maybe having a savings account? I know it is hard for some too do that but I think it more so for a business to have a backup. If your business is week to week and has been for a while then maybe it is that time. Just some thoughts. Please fill in the gaps.
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05-21-2020, 01:27 AM | #2 |
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In my opinion, it is just unrealistic to expect people to stay home for months without an income. In my opinion, I feel that the more vulnerable, elderly, and immune deficient should be the ones to quarantine themselves if they are concerned with the consequences of catching this virus. But this is truly a situation to where you are between a rock and a hard place. I do feel if I were to be infected by this virus that I will be okay, but who's to say, this would be the one thing that will take me out. But I have been very close to people who have had the flu and rarely caught it. There have been a few times that I've had the flu but I would recover from it in 2 to 3 days. But I feel that a lot of people are in different situations where their decision on how to handle this would not be the same as other people. I have family members that do have heart problems and high blood pressure and they are heavy smokers and if I were to be a carrier I would hate for them to contract that from me.
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05-21-2020, 01:44 AM | #3 |
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So the states are reopening and everyone is lining up to go inside Mcdonalds to get a heart attack in sack. Is this thing close to being over or do people think here in a few weeks we will have Quarantine part 2? I do think that people need too go back to work because they got bills to pay,etc but at the same time I'm the type that thinks that in some ways people should have prepared for something like that? Maybe having a savings account? I know it is hard for some too do that but I think it more so for a business to have a backup. If your business is week to week and has been for a while then maybe it is that time. Just some thoughts. Please fill in the gaps.
For some of us, "savings account " is a fairy tale phrase. I've been on my own since 16 years old and came from dirt, so it's a damned wonder that I even have a roof, let alone any cushion or fall back. You could of course make the argument that I shouldn't be a collector of these wonderful action figures that we all show up here to bicker about, but I view that ( at least for the time being) as a last-ditch fall back in and of itself, and one I get to appreciate while I have it, at that. It's actually better than a savings account, because it's only used as a last line of defense, due to the effort involved in turning it into cash- can't just make a withdrawal. I actually just went through all of that last year. Without going too far into my own self justification for blowing my money on toys; yes, it's time to go back to work for those of us that can. I just got the "full time" approval last week after 2 months of 12 hour work weeks, and while I've stayed afloat on that, I need to get back to a point where I can get ahead and perhaps have an alternate fall back for the next great disaster in my life- everyone has to shave off the mohawk and attempt adulting someday. Our economy needs it as well. Now don't get me wrong, I don't suggest that we should be haphazardly hugging strangers, or standing up someone's rear in the check out line- I'm in the restaurant industry, and our protocols have changed drastically for people's safety. Oddly enough, our customers are 90% hassle free in following them if you can believe it. Forget to hold the mustard and all hell breaks loose, but in today's climate, they're staying apart, bussing and sanitizing their own tables and so on. So yeah, we need to re-open, albeit responsibly. Otherwise far more will die from homelessness associated risks, starvation, depression, domestic violence, etc., etc., etc. It also wouldn't do to have our country collapse in on itself from fear of the unknown and conflicting data. |
05-21-2020, 01:51 AM | #4 |
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We simply haven’t beat the virus yet. It took years to beat polio, small pox, measles, and significantly limit tuberculosis to what it is today. All terrible diseases. Good science takes time. You guys are right in that our economy cannot handle continued lockdown but this is not over. Even as we reopen businesses the social distancing will still be necessary to flatten the curve. Too many people infected at once can take up all the hospital beds, which can still interrupt care for other emergency medical conditions like heart attack and stroke. And it’s not just an old peoples disease, mind you. Young people can get really sick for a long time. Like people in their thirties and forties, really sick. They may not die but it can be far worse than the flu. Hopefully there have already been a lot of mildly symptomatic or asymptomatic cases which will also limit its spread, but the fact is we just don’t know what to expect, other than this: it isn’t over. I’m not especially worried or fearful. I support reopening the economy gradually and carefully watching the case counts, trying to balance the needs of people most at-risk, healthcare workers with limited personal protective equipment, and those individuals families and businesses who are suffering economically and need to work. As for savings, everyone should ideally keep a rainy day fund of 3-6 months of expenses readily available. There will always be another emergency.
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05-21-2020, 07:32 AM | #5 |
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There’s a reason why we take flu shots every year, the virus mutates. The same will happen with covid. Those who built up an immunity from this strain after exposure will not have the same protection once version 2.0 comes around. We can only hope that with today’s medical advances a vaccine can safely be produced.
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05-21-2020, 09:07 AM | #6 |
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We are just getting started with this. We have a long way to go.
People are starting to make social demands of me, people I can’t turn down. These people are elderly or sick. It is making me very angry. I want my toys, and I want to honor my mother’s birthday. I don’t want to be responsible for a loved one’s death or, best case, putting someone I care about on a ventilator for five days, as was the case with my friend’s brother-in-law. |
05-21-2020, 10:04 AM | #7 |
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This thing is wiping out even the healthiest of people. It sucks, so the only way forward is for everyone to admit that the individual is more important than the masses. Everyone will need to admit that lives are not worth the Dow Jones. Everyone needs to admit that losing your life is worth getting a haircut. It's the elephant in the room. We're getting everything we deserve.
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05-21-2020, 10:23 AM | #8 |
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I've been back to work for weeks, but you won't find me lollygagging about stores anytime soon.
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05-21-2020, 10:32 AM | #9 |
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Unfortunately, the virus doesn't care about choice. This is the mindset of a lot of people against closing down. The virus is too contagious.
This thing is wiping out even the healthiest of people. It sucks, so the only way forward is for everyone to admit that the individual is more important than the masses. Everyone will need to admit that lives are not worth the Dow Jones. Everyone needs to admit that losing your life is worth getting a haircut. It's the elephant in the room. We're getting everything we deserve. I’m not saying we are there, yet. I don’t care about hair cuts or being able to “get out.” However, I can only hope that people in the places of power with that knowledge take us a safe distance from the brink, and not over.
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05-21-2020, 10:38 AM | #10 |
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The virus will stay with us until an effective vaccine is developed and distributed on a global scale, probably in 2021 or later.
Poverty, economic ruin, and an absence of regular health care will claim more lives than the virus can. We will wear silly masks, fully knowing that the virus appears in air conditioning filters, and transmits among pets and wildlife. When is the last time we saw a squirrel or a bird wearing a mask to prevent the spread of this virus? It will be painful, but I will just have to learn to accept my own mortality and that of those I love and care for. This will have to go back to being the land of the free and home of the brave, instead of the land of the safe and home of the scared.
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