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11-21-2016, 11:07 PM | #1 |
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Are these ASS Clowns still around??? I saw them on AMA and can't believe they think they are still relevant in the music world.
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11-22-2016, 01:48 AM | #2 |
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one of the most profitable bands in the music biz. somebody must be listening.
It isn't me. I always thought they were annoying, and did a poor job of imitating of much better bands. |
11-22-2016, 02:24 AM | #3 |
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11-22-2016, 08:58 AM | #4 |
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You might remember that they had a massive hit with "American Idiot" about ten years ago or so. It sold over 6 million copies in the US. I would say that is the last time they were really relevant on a big stage. They also got inducted into the Rock N Roll Hall of Fame last year, or the year before.
The fact that anyone is talking about them is pretty amazing. I think the internet has really made being a "big" band a thing of the past, except for a select few.
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11-22-2016, 10:38 AM | #5 |
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Stuff like this bothers me. This armchair hate directed at artists/actors/famous people. Now, I'm not really a Green Day fan, but I do enjoy some of their songs, and it seems to me that they at least went out and actually did something and continue to do something. What have you done? What do you do? They're relevant to someone, and that's all that matters. More relevant than you, I'd wager, at any rate.
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11-22-2016, 11:40 AM | #6 |
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Interesting point. For the sake of discussion, "Octo-mom" Nadya Suleman is a famous person. I don't think she did anything to be proud of in order to achieve her fame (no real "accomplishment," per se). Is it wrong to be irritated by her modest fame? I'd say it's pretty natural to resent her fame, personally. How do you weigh in there?
Same goes for reality TV "stars." Ok to dislike them or not?
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11-22-2016, 01:07 PM | #7 |
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Stuff like this bothers me. This armchair hate directed at artists/actors/famous people. Now, I'm not really a Green Day fan, but I do enjoy some of their songs, and it seems to me that they at least went out and actually did something and continue to do something. What have you done? What do you do? They're relevant to someone, and that's all that matters. More relevant than you, I'd wager, at any rate.
On the other hand, maybe asking if someone is still around is a good form of critque. Everyone is entitled to their opinion for sure. That is no more or less a true comment than" Green Day is a good band" which is subjective. I think "Green Day is a profitable band that is rich by anyone's standards" is less subjective and would help prove why Green Day thinks they are relevant, thier music makes people money. I guess this takes the thread off the original topic some, but it's an interesting conversation.
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11-22-2016, 05:09 PM | #8 |
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Stuff like this bothers me. This armchair hate directed at artists/actors/famous people. Now, I'm not really a Green Day fan, but I do enjoy some of their songs, and it seems to me that they at least went out and actually did something and continue to do something. What have you done? What do you do? They're relevant to someone, and that's all that matters. More relevant than you, I'd wager, at any rate.
And yes I've done several good things that are a benefit to my community thank you very much Stuff and comments like this from Keyboard Commandos is annoying also. Quote:
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You might remember that they had a massive hit with "American Idiot" about ten years ago or so. It sold over 6 million copies in the US. I would say that is the last time they were really relevant on a big stage. They also got inducted into the Rock N Roll Hall of Fame last year, or the year before.
The fact that anyone is talking about them is pretty amazing. I think the internet has really made being a "big" band a thing of the past, except for a select few. |
11-22-2016, 08:01 PM | #9 |
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I mean that the internet has enabled bands to connect with anyone almost instantly and for music fans to find something they really love more easily than ever before. It's just more readily available. When you have access to more product diversity, the market gets saturated and people make less money. There's probably an economic theory about it. I'm too lazy to google it. For instance, when I was growing up in Oklahoma, the way I got introduced to new music was basically one of three ways, TV (and really only MTV), radio (there was one Rock and one Alternative Rock station) and print, like Rolling stone and Spin. Those were the avenues I had to find out what music was coming out/had come out/what shows were happening in my area, etc. Then, if I wanted to listen to the song when I wanted, I had to get a copy of the song, either on an album or from a friend or recorded from the radio or whatever. If it was rare, I had to find a person who had the music. When I wanted to check out Minor Threat, I had to ask the dude at my high school with a mohawk. It couldn't even buy it without going across Oklahoma City. You might be old enough to remember these days. Today, I can google "rock charts November 2016" and get the billboard top 25 on a single webpage with a link to play EVERY song and a link to the video for over half the songs. This accessibility makes finding something I really love as easy as it is hard, but if I like something or hear about something, that drive across Oklahoma City is some typing and a couple of mouse clicks. The accessibility makes anything being as popular as say Elvis, Michael Jackson, The Beatles extremely difficult. I doubt anyone will sell that many albums again. There is just too much choice compared to what people will spend. I would imagine that the reason we all (in this thread) know about Green Day is that we are probably around the same age (I am 36) or have an interest in music if we are younger. So when Dookie came out, we all heard those songs because we had to listen to them on the radio or watch the basketcase video on MTV because steaming music and youtube weren't things. Here's a link to some papers people have written about the inter's effect on music. They actual did research and stuff. https://scholar.google.com/scholar?q...1BDpgQgQMIGzAA Here's a link to an article that talks about some of the things I was talking about. How The Internet Changed Music
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11-22-2016, 08:48 PM | #10 |
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For instance, when I was growing up in Oklahoma, the way I got introduced to new music was basically one of three ways, TV (and really only MTV), radio (there was one Rock and one Alternative Rock station) and print, like Rolling stone and Spin. Those were the avenues I had to find out what music was coming out/had come out/what shows were happening in my area, etc. Then, if I wanted to listen to the song when I wanted, I had to get a copy of the song, either on an album or from a friend or recorded from the radio or whatever. If it was rare, I had to find a person who had the music. When I wanted to check out Minor Threat, I had to ask the dude at my high school with a mohawk. It couldn't even buy it without going across Oklahoma City. You might be old enough to remember these days.
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