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07-18-2016, 11:42 PM | #11 |
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If you've ever lived through any sort of large scale natural disaster you'd see how quickly the break down of society goes, especially if there is limited access to food, water, heat, shelter, etc. Emergency services are people too, and when their homes and loved ones are also at risk you'll see how important a paycheck isn't when they have to worry about the home front. Much respect to those who soldiered on through such disasters! Zombies just compound the issue.
The original "Night of the Living Dead" showed a more quickly contained outbreak. By dawn mankind figured out the problem and was well on their way to resolving it. If you want an excellent example as to how a zombie pandemic could quickly go global read Max Brooks' World War Z (it is NOTHING like he movie). He goes as far to show how various societies cultures help or hinder their outcome around the globe. I think we all forget that the key for routing a Zombie outbreak is education. The problem seems to be that in the confusion, education is largely lost in the emotion and distress of the situation. By the time someone catches on and spreads the knowledge of how to deal with the situation, all too many have been bitten and too much of our day to day support/infrastructure has been lost. That seems to be the way Walking Dead and Max Brooks went. Before the new Zombie pop culture swept across America how many people would have even acknowledged or understood what a zombie was? We know, many more so now, but outside of the sci-fi/horror/comic book world how many would know what to do? If everyone one understood from the first infection, "Yeah just hit that sucker in the head real hard and don't let it bite anyone"-issue contained. But, isn't that always how these things begin? Someone empties a clip center mass with no effect? Bit. Rioters-bit, infected find a loved one-bit. So on and so forth. As survivors need to increase their range to find what they need for survival the risk increases.
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07-19-2016, 12:04 AM | #12 |
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Formulaic movies sell. Originality is a foreign concept in Hollywood right now.
I think the op gives too much credit to society. Once the lights, the water, and food began to run out, all semblances of society and human decency will give way to instinctive survival of the fittest. Narcissism also comes into play. I asked Rhett Reese (Zombieland) on twitter why people always place themselves in the role of survivor and that was his one word answer. It is true too. I know I would be one of the first to go for one thing, I work at a food distribution center. Unless the National Guard is quick to send us some help, we would be in big trouble. Remember the show Life after Humans? It won't be long before nature takes over. If it could. There are shining examples of compassion and wanting to help your fellow man but when it comes down to it it would be everyone for themselves. Education is one thing but another is knowing how to survive without amenities. Millions of people would be helpless. Those in the more rural areas would certainly last longer. They know how to hunt, fish, grow food and be self sustaining. John Doe who carries a briefcase on the subway everyday and sits at a computer for 8 hours only to go home and do it all over again, is going to have a disadvantage. He is going to panic because he does not know what to do. Then you also have the mob mentality, cases of mass hysteria, gangs taking advantage of their already established allegiances, once civilization and the governmental infrastructure start to crumble away, the underworld will emerge. Then the zombies will eat them.
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07-19-2016, 12:04 AM | #13 |
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Since when. Granted I only saw this one and only thing I remember anything even close was at the end when he was playing video games with his zombie friend. I actually find simon pegg annoying so don't watch a lot with him in it.
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07-19-2016, 12:12 AM | #14 |
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If it is some sort of epidemic that goes through the population first causing illness, death, then you come back I think that would be the only way it has an effect on the population and downfall of society. Not the zombies themselves but the disease. I see the zombies as being just something you would have to deal with and after a while you would learn to handle them easily kind of like walking dead. If they are runners like in 28 days later,etc then it maybe another story.
I agree with the those that mentioned about it being a kill or be killed type of society during a zombie outbreak. After a while all people care about anymore is themselves and the family. Hell it is going that way now in society if it is not already happened. I dont think there is really anything wrong with protecting you and yours but at the end of the day I would like to think retaining ones humanity would involve helping others. After all if you want to rebuild you need people and that doesn't mean killing off everyone you meet. I am sure some though would not care about that and just want to watch it burn.
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07-19-2016, 11:11 AM | #15 |
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7 Scientific Reasons a Zombie Outbreak Would Fail (Quickly) | Cracked.com I always argue the same thing. Walking Dead is the biggest example. How did the world fall completely apart in just those few days Rick was in the hospital. He awoke obviously still well nourished and not dehydrated so it couldn't even have been a week. |
07-19-2016, 03:49 PM | #16 |
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it wouldn't even get to that point. The outbreak would be contained and the zombies would be put down long before survival of the fittest had a chance to take over. There would be tons of looting, though. I mean the lights go out for a few hours and people can't wait to break and steal shit. That's actually what a "real" zombie apocalypse might look like, a really bad blackout. Well, maybe. But what's the alternative? If you're going to imagine yourself in an end of the world scenario, what's the fun in thinking you'd be one of the poor bastards who didn't make it? Even if that's what most of us would be. |
07-19-2016, 06:13 PM | #17 |
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you have never read Larry Correia's Monster Hunter International. They are a group of every archetype for horror movie(the hot chick, The black guy, the fat guy ect)that get bumped off in every horror movie. They get bounties for killing monsters: Zombies, Werewolves, Vampires you name it. They anything at their disposal, They use Chainsaws, Machine guns, snowplows, combines and everything else. The author is a pro gun and he was an accountant. The book has a lot of dry humor.
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07-19-2016, 06:26 PM | #18 |
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They show on tv, game shows, them working in the grocery store, and yes when he was playing the video game with Nick Frost in the shed.
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09-21-2016, 07:57 PM | #19 |
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If it is some sort of epidemic that goes through the population first causing illness, death, then you come back I think that would be the only way it has an effect on the population and downfall of society. Not the zombies themselves but the disease. I see the zombies as being just something you would have to deal with and after a while you would learn to handle them easily kind of like walking dead. If they are runners like in 28 days later,etc then it maybe another story.
I agree with the those that mentioned about it being a kill or be killed type of society during a zombie outbreak. After a while all people care about anymore is themselves and the family. Hell it is going that way now in society if it is not already happened. I dont think there is really anything wrong with protecting you and yours but at the end of the day I would like to think retaining ones humanity would involve helping others. After all if you want to rebuild you need people and that doesn't mean killing off everyone you meet. I am sure some though would not care about that and just want to watch it burn. |
09-21-2016, 09:40 PM | #20 |
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Formulaic movies sell. Originality is a foreign concept in Hollywood right now.
I think the op gives too much credit to society. Once the lights, the water, and food began to run out, all semblances of society and human decency will give way to instinctive survival of the fittest. Narcissism also comes into play. I asked Rhett Reese (Zombieland) on twitter why people always place themselves in the role of survivor and that was his one word answer. It is true too. I know I would be one of the first to go for one thing, I work at a food distribution center. Unless the National Guard is quick to send us some help, we would be in big trouble. Remember the show Life after Humans? It won't be long before nature takes over. If it could. There are shining examples of compassion and wanting to help your fellow man but when it comes down to it it would be everyone for themselves. Education is one thing but another is knowing how to survive without amenities. Millions of people would be helpless. Those in the more rural areas would certainly last longer. They know how to hunt, fish, grow food and be self sustaining. John Doe who carries a briefcase on the subway everyday and sits at a computer for 8 hours only to go home and do it all over again, is going to have a disadvantage. He is going to panic because he does not know what to do. Then you also have the mob mentality, cases of mass hysteria, gangs taking advantage of their already established allegiances, once civilization and the governmental infrastructure start to crumble away, the underworld will emerge. Then the zombies will eat them. Not only is John Q Cubical worker going to not have the necessary skills to survive but will most likely live in an urban or suburban area that relies on municipality for most necessities for life. And yeah zombies or no Narcissism has been the down fall of our species for hundreds of years.
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