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02-22-2014, 12:50 PM | #1 |
Crimson Guard
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Why usa is so obsessed with military stuffs ?
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02-22-2014, 12:53 PM | #2 |
Cobra sloth ninja
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Because murica'
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02-22-2014, 01:20 PM | #3 |
Iron Grenadier
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i guess the same reason the italians are obsessed with pasta... and the the french are obsessed bout their cooking :-)
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02-22-2014, 01:41 PM | #4 |
Crimson Guard
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The USA is not obessed with military stuff as a whole. Not even close. Are all Brazilians obessed with football? Are all of you walking around in thongs and living in the rain forest or beach?
No, most americans could give a rats ass about military stuff. There are over 350 million of us. I collect a military based toy line, but have never been in the military. And the military collectors, are in the minority. A better question would have been, why are the citizens of the USA obessed with violence? American football, MMA, boxing, etc. Last edited by hahoo3; 02-22-2014 at 01:47 PM.. |
02-22-2014, 01:49 PM | #5 |
Crimson Guard
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"obsessed" is a defamatory word choice.
Alot of us are proud of the U.S. military, and the men & women that serve in it Not sure if your intent is to ask a negative question about the U.S., but its not appropriate. |
02-22-2014, 02:20 PM | #6 |
Crimson Guard
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I apologizes i have no intention to ask such question sorry guys.
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02-22-2014, 02:46 PM | #7 |
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Obsessed might not translate effectively. I think the interest level as a % of population probably isn't that far off from other countries but each nation is going to have it's own history that either lends itself to cultural identity with the armed forces or not. For instance Brazil's military was involved but not to the extent of the US in WWII. The majority of Brazilian military actions in recent times have been domestic in nature with a series of rebellions, revolutions, and coups. Part of that is due to the US's somewhat oversized influence on world affairs in general with historic alliances that have brought it into massive military action overseas. I don't think it's necessarily a glamorization of warfare or mindless killing but more a reflection that the men and women in the US Military have by vast majority stood for the ideal that Americans feel embodies the country as a whole: freedom. Whether good or bad the US has been the largest strategic influencer of world policy and the projection of military influence is a strong component. If you look at Germany it is vastly different in terms of military culture in large part because retrospectively there is recognition that the actions of Nazi Germany are a scar on their collective history that will never fade. It becomes difficult to celebrate a heritage that is largely steeped in acknowledged evil. France's military history is long and honorable however their collapse in WWII is the most defining point in modern history. It again becomes difficult to culturally accept that as a success. For Russia and former Satellite states you have a more similar view with what you find in the US due to their heroic stand as the eastern wall against Nazism. What tempers it for the general population is military actions in their home territory and the sheer vastness of different cultures. If you look back thru time there are organizations in every country that honor military service and traditions. In Western Europe there are over a thousand years worth of tradition recognized and that fractures any one era from becoming overwhelmingly culturally accepted in nature. You also have a consumerism element where the United States traditionally has had more disposable income for things such as toys which includes our action figures. Most of the people who collect in the US have lived thru the Cold War and as it was a rather large part of the national identity it has filtered into our interests as well. So it isn't an obsession but more of an interest in the actions of history that have gotten us to this point. If it makes you feel better most Americans are so non-obsessed they would struggle to find Tripoli, Bastogne, or The Somme on a map. And for the most part the interest stems from a desire to honor service to one's country, to the ideal of freedom, and to the bonds created between soldiers that become family. It's a very diverse and fractured nation - and one born out of revolution. If there's anything I could recommend it's just that as you start writing research historic examples and please don't stop asking questions. You may occasionally get a gruff response but the reality is that we're open enough a society to share our story... and it's a pretty good one I might add. |
02-22-2014, 03:05 PM | #8 |
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I think we do to a point. I dont know if obsessed is the right word for it though. I mean if we see a video of someone in the military doing something like rescuing someone from a fire everyone is like "Thats cause marines are bad***" when someone else could have done it and never even been in the military.
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02-22-2014, 03:20 PM | #9 |
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I think you're fine asking the question - it's legitimate and I think there's some language that doesn't get thru.
Obsessed might not translate effectively. I think the interest level as a % of population probably isn't that far off from other countries but each nation is going to have it's own history that either lends itself to cultural identity with the armed forces or not. For instance Brazil's military was involved but not to the extent of the US in WWII. The majority of Brazilian military actions in recent times have been domestic in nature with a series of rebellions, revolutions, and coups. Part of that is due to the US's somewhat oversized influence on world affairs in general with historic alliances that have brought it into massive military action overseas. I don't think it's necessarily a glamorization of warfare or mindless killing but more a reflection that the men and women in the US Military have by vast majority stood for the ideal that Americans feel embodies the country as a whole: freedom. Whether good or bad the US has been the largest strategic influencer of world policy and the projection of military influence is a strong component. If you look at Germany it is vastly different in terms of military culture in large part because retrospectively there is recognition that the actions of Nazi Germany are a scar on their collective history that will never fade. It becomes difficult to celebrate a heritage that is largely steeped in acknowledged evil. France's military history is long and honorable however their collapse in WWII is the most defining point in modern history. It again becomes difficult to culturally accept that as a success. For Russia and former Satellite states you have a more similar view with what you find in the US due to their heroic stand as the eastern wall against Nazism. What tempers it for the general population is military actions in their home territory and the sheer vastness of different cultures. If you look back thru time there are organizations in every country that honor military service and traditions. In Western Europe there are over a thousand years worth of tradition recognized and that fractures any one era from becoming overwhelmingly culturally accepted in nature. You also have a consumerism element where the United States traditionally has had more disposable income for things such as toys which includes our action figures. Most of the people who collect in the US have lived thru the Cold War and as it was a rather large part of the national identity it has filtered into our interests as well. So it isn't an obsession but more of an interest in the actions of history that have gotten us to this point. If it makes you feel better most Americans are so non-obsessed they would struggle to find Tripoli, Bastogne, or The Somme on a map. And for the most part the interest stems from a desire to honor service to one's country, to the ideal of freedom, and to the bonds created between soldiers that become family. It's a very diverse and fractured nation - and one born out of revolution. If there's anything I could recommend it's just that as you start writing research historic examples and please don't stop asking questions. You may occasionally get a gruff response but the reality is that we're open enough a society to share our story... and it's a pretty good one I might add. |
02-22-2014, 04:05 PM | #10 |
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