[Lt. Faceless]

http://www.hisstank.com/forum/genera...something.html

I started a thread about the AFA too. AFA is one of those companies that likes to screw the fandam and not even nice enough to give us a reach around. Their grading system is a joke and is deteremined by the guy grading that day.

[Kentuckyman]

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Originally Posted by Mazinger

It's just like any other organization or company.

They get together and creating a rating or certification process and hope other people adopt their ways and it eventually becomes a standard. Throw enough weight around and constantly mention your name in the business and it'll be a household name.

I'm in the construction business. There are standards, ways to do things, codes, etc... A lot of these were created by individual companies and were eventually adopted to be "standard".

The newest scam in the field is LEEDS certification.

I am a painting contractor and this post stands out at me I know I am an authority on everything involved with it specs/products/sprayers/tips/lines/VOC/Inc./ etc. etc. I started collecting an as adult in late 1998 I actually found some TRU exclusives in Lakeland, FL and bought some of these and a few eBay vintage items and went on and amassed a large loose collection man it was fun but over the course of the years 7-8 into 2006 I saw a varying amount of differences in grading scales on eBay and different forums. Example a cracked elbow to me is a C-5 no higher its a major flaw but I had several sold to me as C-9 with beautiful paint so I adopted it as a standard although my opinion varied. I do see the points from both sides guys I really do and my situation on the loose is "been there done that". I had a mint loose USA version mastercollection and I did want to do something new this time around so I may be the one of the FEW people that had a loose complete mastercollection and am now attempting an AFA MOC/MISB mastercollection. There are a few items where they could and should change a few policies like they did with qualified ratings. I want my loose blue Conv hydrofoil graded man!!!!!!!

[Kentuckyman]

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Originally Posted by flash70

well said everyone they are worthless...AFA means nothing and to tell you the truth people should should break all AFA plastic bins in big slam fest...we never needed AFA before and we should never need from now on.

Dont make me send The Baroness after ya man LoL

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[Joseph]

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Originally Posted by Lt. Faceless

Their grading system is a joke and is deteremined by the guy grading that day.

But, don't you see how that is the beauty of it? It's completely arbitrary, but so would be your opinion if you walked up to a counter in a comic shop and asked to see the vintage toy behind the counter. You might call it an 8, but the super picky guy that looked at it last week called it a 6. We hear the stories of a guy who gets totally mint cases from Hasbro, breaks them open and sends off the rare figure and it comes back an 8, and another guy who found a figure in an open case at Wal-Mart and sent it to be graded and it came back a 9.8. This is why you should not be confused. It is basically charging for an outside, independant opinion. You're confused because you can't figure out why anyone places any stock in what they hell they say, because not only is their opinion arbitrary, but the price and value we -the collectors- place on it is as well. Our value of the figure we send to be graded remains inflated because we paid for it to be graded and goddamn it, it's gonna be worth as much as I say! Like the guy who sends perfectly mint figures to be graded and they come back an 8. He still thinks it's a 10.0, so he charges that way for it when he sells it. Even Hasbro is getting in on the scam and selling 90 dollar figures on their website that have been AFA graded. It's bullshit and it's completely a response to the clout we, as a community, have given this scam. There is just something really bullshit about the manufacturer selling AFA 10s.