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09-28-2011, 11:32 AM | #21 |
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jesus...i think this is happening everywhere...i just read this story yesterday and it made me sick about these little shithead kid doing this...and the fucked up part is there gunna get away with it unless someone does something about it...
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09-28-2011, 08:59 PM | #22 |
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shotgun with rock salt pellets?
bagfull of rattlesnakes? front and rear bumper of a car,repeatedly? or just a good ol' 44 mag............... yeah,no protection for law abiders anymore.i probably woulda went apeshit too. now i have a friend,back in the 90's that was being harrassed at her home.well long story short,SHE went to the geerage,got a BRASS mallet and HIT the one girl in the head with it,knocking her out cold.only problem was,that was on the street outside her parents house.juvi she went. true story,good times.:p
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i have a older brother who is 40 and he has a son that's 18. today a group of kids around my nephew's age more or less, 15 to 18, were harrassing him. over exactly what i'm not sure. my brother happen to see it. and asked the kids to layoff his son
but then the main kid starting talking shit and saying he would fuck him up too and then stated he would or has fucked his wife as well, while she was there. so she called the police and the kids left. the police came and setup a meeting with the kid, his parents, my nephew, my brother and his wife. the meeting was set for tomorrow. but then a group of kids, about 14 of them, showed up at my house about an hour and a half ago calling my nephew's name. but my nephew was not home but my brother was. now the kids weren't the tough type. they were all a bunch nerds..really. only the instigator looked the tough type, kinda stocky but still young maybe only 16. well again they all began threatening him and his wife. of coarse my brother had to say something back. my sister-in-law again called the police. but the kids would not leave and things were already getting heated by the time i went outside. how could i leave my brother out there alone. they were only kids but they could still give a beatdown if they all jumped him. i was angry and i did curse out the main kid telling him to fucking leave and if he really wanted to do something to come up to the house insteady of slowly leaving like they were. not my best moment but they were finally leaving and i calmed down. but then they came back with a bat and my brother lost it and ran towards them. he was wrong just as much as the kid. i yelled to my brother to stop. then they jumped him, about 5 kids. he was on the ground and they were hitting him and one of the kids was hitting him with the bat. as soon as i saw him getting jumped i ran towards them. i had to he's my brother. but my brother somehow was holding his own, most of the kids were pretty weak looking. and the kids scattered once i got there or once he started getting up. my brother got a hold of the main kid and was beating him down. i tried to separate them. i was trying to pull the kid off, it wasn't working so i got in the middle, my brother hit me by mistake, i pushed him off and then my brother grabbed the bat that he was beaten with but he dropped it when i pushed him. unfortunately the police arrived just when he grabbed the bat. the kid was leaving so the cop thought it was me and brother that were fighting and tried to tackle me and my brother in doing so my brother fell and hit his head on the road. i have his blood on my shirt. all the neighbors quickly yelled to the cop "wrong guy" and "it was the kid who started this" and they arrested him but they also arrested my brother because they saw him with the bat. they also stated that he was adult and they were minors. he should have known better. so if a bunch of kids are jumping you..you can't fight back just cause there kids? though he was wrong for grabbing the bat even though he was beaten with the bat as well. 2 wrongs don't make a right. i don't think he was wrong for fighting back, he was getting jumped. but the bat was wrong both ways. and he should not have gone towards them when they came back with the bat. it gets better my nephew came home and saw his father on the floor bleeding and ran towards him. he didn't know the police were trying to control the crime scene and wanted people to stay away. well 5 cops tackled him and arrested him. we told them he didn't know what was going on, he just saw his father hurt and was upset and was trying to see what was going on. they said he was stupid, they really said that, he should have known about entering a controlled crime scene, and they took him away. so how would you handle this situation from here? i have a feeling these kids will be back. it takes alot of balls to try to pick on a kid's father and mother. to keep coming to someone's home to pick a fight. i have another nephew that's 10, will they attack him. will they keep coming back? the fact that we already called the police on him and he still came back for more really worries me. so will him being arrested really stop him? will the kid's father go after my brother? will they show up with more kids? |
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09-29-2011, 11:34 AM | #24 |
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Really sorry to hear. I hope your brother is OK.
In my younger years, I would have done the same thing. After having been through some messes like this, and having a kid myself, I would have recorded what they were doing from IN SIDE the house, called the cops and kept recording. If they came back, do the same thing. Have them charged with everything possible. I would make it KNOWN to the cops that I feared my my families safety (in Maine you have the right to DEADLY FORCE if you are in fear for you life REGARDLESS of where you are). As tough as it is, just keep calling, recording and reporting EVERYTHING! Every single word. I had an argument with the guy out back of me about 4 years ago when my wife was pregnant. He and I dont get a long. So anyway, Im backing into my driveway and he walks across my lawn from his house, right in front of me and before Im in park he is standing at my door with a 2' long, 1" pipe. My pregnant wife was in the passenger seat and I told her to lock the doors when I got out. I opened the door trying to hit him and he dodged it. Then he realized I was serious (Im about 30 at the time, 5'10ish, 210 lbs and jacked with a reputation around town, I imagine thats why he had the pipe. He is 6'1ish, 170ish and 55 or so. He's known as a chickenshit loudmouth). So anyway, we get into a pretty heated argument and I back him down my driveway. My wife breaks for the house and calls the cops. As he's walking off and Im going into the house he makes a comment about "You better hope I dont run into you up in the woods or you wont be coming back." Well, I grab my 12 gauge by the door and load it. My wife is on the phone with the chief of police (they know us and he is friends with my wife) and he asks to talk to me. I tell him exactly what was said and that if he comes back Im shooting him. I told him to stay off my property and he threatened me and I was afraid for my life. At that exact moment 2 marked cars and an unmarked car pull up. I walk out and greet them with the 12 gauge in hand and tell them everything that happened and was said. 2 of the cars took off to look for him (he got into his truck and took off after the argument). Long story short, I could have had him charged with brandishing a weapon, making a deadly threat and trespassing, along with some other stuff I dont recall. I told them that I wasnt doing anything THIS TIME, but if he came back over here I would use whatever force I felt was necessary at the time and he BETTER know this. The police said, "If you feel threatened and like your life is in jeopardy, and you cannot get out of the situation, thats your right to use whatever force you feel is necessary to secure the safety of you and your family. Just make sure if you shoot him you kill him or it can be a HUGE mess. But you DONT want to do that, call us if its possible and stay away from him. We've warned him WELL!" Thats their exact words as police to me. Heat of the moment fights are out of control. MANY things can and do happen. I dont think you guy were in the wrong at all, just maybe miss-handled it a bit. BUT, its easy to do when a group of PEOPLE (not kids, people, because youre not checking ID's) are harassing you or a family member, trespassing and making threats. For me personally, I think people dont realize how far theyve gone when theyre trespassing and making threats, ESPECIALLY if its a kid. You really DONT want to kill anyone, especially some kid, but shit happens fast. Try to let the police take care of it when possible, thats always the best bet. Document EVERYTHING if you can, and call the cops ASAP. If youre really afraid for you safety, tell them that on the phone. "Theres 15 of them on my lawn making threats, the big one in the front has a baseball bat. IM AFRAID FOR MY FAMILIES SAFETY! GET SOMEONE HERE NOW!!!!" Thats the best bet. Last edited by bigvig; 09-30-2011 at 10:36 AM.. |
09-29-2011, 08:34 PM | #25 |
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there were easily about 15 neighbors who saw the whole thing, that saw my brother get jumped and attacked with a bat and they mentioned it to the cops. everyone was visably upset with the blood coming from my brother's head. one lady who we don't even know kept a shirt on my brother's head to try to stop the bleeding and she wouldn't leave his side.
in a moment he lost it and he grabbed the bat he was beaten with to lash out against the person who was beating him with it. i don't condone it but i can understand why he did it. even though my brother ran towards them when they came back the 3rd time they still would have jumped him had he stayed put in front of the house. that's why they had the bat. what annoyed me was the yelling and lecturing they tried to give my brother. and one cop said he could have shot and killed him because he had the bat in his hand. he might be right but how is stating that helping the situation. and did they still have to knee my nephew in the back after we told them he just was running towards his father out of concern. the kid had already been taken away, and he wasn't trying to attack his father. my nephew was not resisting in any type of way too. i guess they couldn't admit that it was a misunderstanding and they arrested him anyway. he was later released without any charges filed on him. my nephew must have done something really terrible to that kid to spark such anger. or he's just nuts. now in your brothers case, those cops would have lost their jobs badges, and perhaps prison, due to over reacting and shooting on impulse. that is a cop that don't deserve to be a cop, because he would of paniced like a chump and ruined his life.. your brother was not endangering anyone or threatening anyone or waving the bat in a violent way so the cop would of been fucked, and your family would of been rich..ok now back to the story. Last edited by Unclassified; 09-29-2011 at 08:49 PM.. |
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09-29-2011, 08:47 PM | #26 |
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I know some kids just don't grow up.I'm 15 and a few years ago I got jumped in a bathroom by a kid 2 years younger than me and smashed my head off of a wall and a metal paper towel dispensor I didn't fight back because I knew they would blame it on me.I have a history of getting into fights.But like I said obviously these kids haven't grown up and there parents don't really care about them.I would take it to court if I were you but since your brother is an adult and they were kids they will most likely say he was attacking them.As for your young nephew I would try to keep him safe.These kids sound like real assholes to me.They have no respect I can just tell these kids will grow up to be big losers.
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09-29-2011, 08:54 PM | #27 |
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did you guys call a lawyer? i would get the best one money can buy, ppl sue for the silliest shit, take the dude that wants to sue white castle for the booths being to small.
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09-29-2011, 11:43 PM | #28 |
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I think people only sue for the silliest shit when they're the ones being sued. Standards and morals fly out the window once the person suing sees an opportunity to sue. The down side of opinions and assholes, you know?
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